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Drysdale - a Douglas sept

Drysdale is considered a sept of the Douglas clan, but it is quite likely that this was a separate family which existed previous to when the three Douglas brothers adopted the Drysdale name. A sept is a family that can be related to a clan or larger family for various reasons. Usually this came about either through marriage or by a small family seeking protection from a larger and more powerful neighbour.

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Story of the creation of the Drysdale family

The following tells the story of the creation of the Drysdale family, it was actually part of the Black Douglas clan which remained in Scotland, following their failed attempt against the Scots crown in 1455.

"On the Twentieth Day of May, One Thousand Five Hundred and Three Years

We, Thomas, William, and James Douglass, sons of the departed Thomas Douglass, of Brushwood Haugh, in the parish of Drysdale, and Shire of Dumfries, left our native place for the reason here assigned, viz:- Defending our just and lawful rights against our unjust neighbour, Johnston of Greenstonhill, who, being determined to bring water to his mill through our property, and having obtained leave of his friend, the King, began his operations on Monday, the 16th of May, We prevented him by force.
The next day he brought twenty of his vassels to carry on the work. We with two friends and three servants, (eight in all,) attacked Johnston with his twenty, and, in the contest, fourteen of his men were killed, along with their base leader. A report of these proceedings was carried to the King, and we were obliged to fly, (the tocsin being sounded).
We took shelter under the shadow of the Ochil Hills, in a lonely valley on the river Devon. After having lived there a full two years, we returned home in disguise, but found all our property in the possession of Johnston's friends, and a great reward offered for our lives. We, having purchased a small spot, called the Haugh of Dollar, and changed our names to the name of our Parish, are clearly in mind to spend the residue of our days under the ope of the Ochils, and wish the name of Drysdale to flourish in the lonely valley. The King passed through this with his Court on the 12th of June, 1506, going from Stirling to Falkland - dined on Halliday's green. (an eastern neighbour;) but we were not recognised."

The above story has been preserved among the desendants of Thomas, William, and James Douglass, now known by the name of Drysdale, and copied at several times by different individuals - first, by Simon Drysdale of the Haugh of Dollar, in the year 1620; by Robert Drysdale of Tillicoultry, in 1708; by John Drysdale, Dunfermline, in 1835; by James Drysdale, Dumfermline, in 1838; by John Montrose Drysdale, in 1841; by George Drysdale, Aberdeen, in 1845; by David Drysdale, Glasgow, in 1857; by John Harrower Drysdale, Aylmer, Ontario, Canada, in 1920; and now by Nicholas Edwin Kontzie (great-great-grandson of Jane Drysdale), Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, in 2000.

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Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on April 15, 2013 at 17:06
Comment by William Douglas on April 1, 2013 at 11:51

Russell, please check the link below...

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on March 31, 2013 at 22:22
Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on March 21, 2013 at 17:48

Rev JOHN DRYSDALE AND HIS DESCENDANTS, 1681-1991 by D C L Drysdale, is the story of Rev John Drysdale (1681-1726),

Minister at Kirkcaldy from 1712-1726,

and his famous descendants, by his wife, Anne Ferguson, daughter of William Ferguson, Provost of Kirkcaldy.

His third son, Rev John Drysdale (1718-1788), minister in Edinburgh, was twice elected Moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland.

Another son, William Drysdale (1717-1757), was merchant and Treasurer of Kirkcaldy, and through his wife, Katherine Robertson of Gladney, the family was related to the famous Adam brothers, architects.

Two other sons, Robert and George, were Town Clerks of Kirkcaldy, and George also served two terms as Provost (1763-1765 and 1771-1775)

. The office of town clerk of Kirkcaldy seems to have been almost an inherited position, the last recipient being John Drysdale, who held office from 1811-1873.

William's (1717-1757) son, William Drysdale (1745-1825), was also Town Clerk of Kirkcaldy, and acquired the estate of Pitteuchar, in Kinglassie parish, in the early 1800s.

He was succeeded there by his son, Sir William Drysdale (1781-1843), Writer to the Signet, who was knighted while City Treasurer of Edinburgh, 1841-1843.

The latter's sister, Ann Drysdale (1792-1853), emigrated to Australia per the "Indus," ex Leith, Oct 1839, arriving Melbourne, 15 March 1840, and there formed a squatting partnership with Caroline Newcomb of London.

Her brother, John Drysdale, farmed Kilrie Farm in Fife, and married a cousin and sister-in-law of George Russell of Golfhill.

Frequent mention to both the latter Drysdales is to be found within the 7-volume "Clyde Company Papers," edited by P L Brown

. Later Australian Drysdales were engaged (from 1883 onwards) in sugar cane refining in Queensland, and their story can be found in "John Drysdale and the Burdekin" (Sydney, 1964) by Roy Connolly.

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on March 20, 2013 at 18:38

My line direct  doesnt connect to the Carstairs , or George Russell Drysdale maybe at some point before 1748 there is a connection to William Drysdale and Helen Renny of Dunfermline, fife , as of yet , I can not connect them . 

Darlene Simms Has Carstairs on her tree , if she is related , I can not say .

Comment by William Douglas on March 19, 2013 at 20:38

DRYSDALE BROTHERS: William (1838-1902), businessman, George Russell (1854?-1909), pastoralist and planter, and John (1847-1928), engineer and planter were born in Scotland, sons of John Drysdale of Kilrie, town clerk of Kirkcaldy, Fife, and his wife Mary, née Carstairs, all have entries in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 4.

Sir George Russell Drysdale (1912-1981), artist, was born on 7 February 1912 at Bognor Regis, Sussex, England, son of George Russell Drysdale, also has an entry.

Does anyone have them in their tree?

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Also in Australia is the town of Drysdale, named after Anne Drysdale, whose estate "Coriyule" still sits above the township.

How does she fit into the family?

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on February 28, 2013 at 18:05
Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on September 3, 2012 at 10:08

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on June 21, 2012 at 11:48

THE ORIGIN OF THE NAME DRYSDALE

 

"On the Twentieth Day of May, One Thousand Five Hundred and Three Years

 

We, Thomas, William, and James Douglas, sons of the departed Thomas Douglas , of Brushwood Haugh, in the parish of Drysdale, and Shire of Dumfries, left our native place for the reason here assigned, viz:- Defending our just and lawful rights against our unjust neighbour,Johnston of Greenstone Hill, who, being determined to bring water to his mill through our property, and having obtained leave of his friend, the King, began his operations on Monday, the 16th of May, We prevented him by force.

The next day he brought twenty of his vassels to carryout his  work. We with two friends and three servants, eight in all, attacked Johnston with his twenty, and, in the contest, fourteen of his men were killed, along with their base leader.

 

A report of these proceedings was carried to the King, and we were obliged to fly, (the tocsin being sounded).We took shelter under the shades of the Ochil Hills, in a lonely valley on the river Devon. After having lived there a full two years, to returned home in disguise, but found all our property in the possession of Johnston's friends, and a great reward offered for our lives.

 

We, having purchased a small shot, called the Haugh of Dollar, and changed our names to the name of our Parish, are clearing in mind to spend the residue of our days under the ope of the Ochils, and wish the name of Dryfdale to flourish in the lonely valley.

 

The King passed through this with his Court on the 12th of June, 1506, going from Stirling to Falkland - dined on Halliday's green. (an eastern neighbour;) but we were not recognised."

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The above story has been preserved among the descendants of Thomas, William, and James Douglas, now known by the name of Drysdale, and copied at several times by different individuals -

first, by Simon Drysdale of the Haugh of Dollar, in the year 1620;

by Robert Drysdale of Yillicoultry, in 1708;

by John Drysdale, Dunfermline, in 1835;

by James Hogg  Drysdale, Dumfermline, in 1838;

and was printed first in the year 1833 by John Drysdale , Montrose

and again in the same form by the last named John Drysdale, Glasgow 1883 ;

and now by Thomas D. Drysdale , Westerton Farm , Leslie , Fife , 1906 .

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on June 4, 2012 at 10:19
 

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