"Hello again William. Its been quite some time since we've made a correspondence and I wanted to check in with you. Have you been able to confirm my lineage to the Douglas Clan? I listed my genealogy in my profile below. Do you need me to…"
"I have been researching Col Archibald Douglas, who supposedly married Harriet Ella Gifford, for some time. As you will know, there is some controversy around this man.I have a theory that he might be the son of John Douglas, of Newcastle. See:…"
"William Douglas was the son of Sir Archibald Douglas and Beatrice Lindsay, and nephew of "Sir James the Good". He was created Earl of Douglas on 26 January 1364.Please note that his father was therefore not an earl; he was a knight.The…"
"Welcome to our community, Erin.
I suggest that you remove your email address from your profile. If you wish, you could put a link to your Ancestry page there.
I will look at your tree and make some comments - if someone else does not get…"
Which Douglas line are you researching? Dates and places help making connections.
Here's my descent from the Douglas family where each generation is a separate line with dates and places indicated:
Archibald II Earl Douglas(1280-1333) and Beatrice Lindsay(1305-1350) were my 20X great grandparents
William Earl Of Douglas(1325-1384) and Margaretha Lady Stewart van Abernethy Gravin van Angus(1355–1418)
Sir George I Douglas, Knight of Douglas, 1st Earl of Angus(1378-1402) and Mary Stewart, Princess of Scotland(1380-1458)
Sir William (the Red) Douglas 2nd Earl of Angus(1398-1437) and Margaret Elizabeth Hay, Countess of Angus(1404–1484)
George "the Red" (Lord Douglas) 4th Earl of Angus, Abernethy and Jedburgh Forest(1429–1463) and Lady Isabel Livingstone Countess of Angus (Countess of Angus) Sibbald(1418–1497)
Archibald Douglas Of Angus V Earl(1453–1513) and Lady Elizabeth, Countess of Angus, Boyd(1458–1497)
George Douglas Master Angus(1469–1513) and Lady Elizabeth Drummond Countess Angus(1472–1514)
James Douglas(1507–1578) and Christian Montgomerie(1509–1575)
Sir William Douglas Sir/6th Earl Morton (1541–1572) and Lady Margaret Gordon(1542–1607)
Sir James, 8th Baron Drumlanrig Douglas (1559–1615) and Mary Fleming, Countess of Bothwell (1563–1637)
Sir William, "1st Earl of Queensbury", Douglas(1592–1650) and Lady Isabel Kerr (1574–1628)
Col Hon Sir William Douglas of Kelhead (1618–1673) and Agnes (Fawside) Fawsyde (1618–1649)
Lord Archibald Douglass (1643–1729) born in Scotland and settled in Delaware Colony and Harriet Ella Gifford(1645–1742)
Jane Margaret (Douglas) Rutter(1663–1737) BIRTH 1663 • England/Scotland DEATH 01 MAR 1737 • Leacock,Lancaster,Pennsylvania,USA and Conrad(Ritter) Rutter(1651–1737)Cleves, Westphalan, Prussia DEATH 1 APRIL ,1737 • Leacock, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA
Joseph Rutter (1684–1775) Leacock Twp, Lancaster, PA and Barbara Glenn(1710–1827) Montgomery, Pennsylvania, United States
George Passage(1737–1815)born in Alsace - Lorraine France DEATH 11 OCT 1815 • Princetown, Schenectady, New York, USA and Mary (Rutter) Passage (1745–1828)Leacock, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA
William Weller (1762–1850) Princetown, Schenectady, New York and Margaret (Passage) Weller (1761–1846)Germantown, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Schenectady, Albany, New York, USA
Job E Rice(1803–1884) New York • Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York and Elizabeth (Weller)Rice 1805–1875Schenectady, New York, United States
Smith W Rice(1841–1911) New York and Anna M Rice(Coy) (1848– 1896) Rochester, New York
Charles F Rice(1869–1911) Rochester City, Monroe, New York and Mary S (Griffin)Rice(1872– ?) New York
Allan Burton Rice (1894–1960)Rochester NY and Lois Marie (Burke)Rice (1897–1956) Rochester NY
Paul Donoghue(1936- present) and Mary (Rice) Donoghue(1939-present) in Rochester NY
Erin (Donoghue) Hathaway (1970-Present) and Scott Hathaway(1969-present) presently in Rochester NY
Colleen Hathaway(2002-present) born in Rochester NY, our daughter
Who is your earliest known Douglas ancestor?
Archibald II Earl Douglas (1280 - 1333)
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Hello again William. Its been quite some time since we've made a correspondence and I wanted to check in with you. Have you been able to confirm my lineage to the Douglas Clan? I listed my genealogy in my profile below. Do you need me to complete any additional research to authenticate my connection to your clan? I appreciate your help with this very exciting possibility in my family tree. Thank you. Erin Hathaway
I have been researching Col Archibald Douglas, who supposedly married Harriet Ella Gifford, for some time. As you will know, there is some controversy around this man. I have a theory that he might be the son of John Douglas, of Newcastle. See: http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/archibald_douglas6.htm Others have different theories. Col Hon Sir William Douglas of Kelhead and Agnes Fawside did have a son, Col Archibald, and he did have a daughter. So, perhaps, your theory is correct. I wonder if anyone else here is from this line?
William Douglas was the son of Sir Archibald Douglas and Beatrice Lindsay, and nephew of "Sir James the Good". He was created Earl of Douglas on 26 January 1364. Please note that his father was therefore not an earl; he was a knight. The Earl of Douglas fathered an illegitimate son by his wife's sister-in-law, Margaret Stewart, widow of Thomas, Earl of Mar and Countess of Angus in her own right: George Douglas, inherited the estates of Angus from his mother and was later created Earl of Angus.
The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.
Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?