All Discussions Tagged 'Yorkshire' - The Douglas Archives2024-03-29T05:54:10Zhttps://douglashistory.ning.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=Yorkshire&feed=yes&xn_auth=noJones-Douglas Conundrumtag:douglashistory.ning.com,2023-05-17:3482022:Topic:1622702023-05-17T22:23:21.591ZRuby Petra Louise Douglashttps://douglashistory.ning.com/profile/RubyPLDouglas
<p>Kia ora everyone, I've decided to post something here after hitting a bit of a wall in trying to untangle a bit of a confusion in my family's recordings of our history, and so I'm sharing it here on the off chance that someone might know something :)</p>
<p>There's a story, in my family, which goes that my great grandfather grew up knowing himself as Walter Jones, until WW1 came around. He, born in 1901, was too young to participate, but attempted to join a local boys group (he lived in…</p>
<p>Kia ora everyone, I've decided to post something here after hitting a bit of a wall in trying to untangle a bit of a confusion in my family's recordings of our history, and so I'm sharing it here on the off chance that someone might know something :)</p>
<p>There's a story, in my family, which goes that my great grandfather grew up knowing himself as Walter Jones, until WW1 came around. He, born in 1901, was too young to participate, but attempted to join a local boys group (he lived in Middlesborough, Yorkshire, at the time)- this, for whatever reason, would require proof of his identity, such as a birth certificate. His mother (Isabella) fought him at every turn, denying any possibility that he could join specifically because it required identification, and being quite dodgy about the topic. Being a 13 year old, he naturally wanted to find out why his mother was behaving in such a way, and went snooping for his birth certificate. When he found it, he also found that his name wasn't Walter Jones, but Walter Douglass, and that his father was not Walter T Jones, his mother's husband, but a different man, with the surname Douglass. While how Isabella reacted to this, or any of the drama that would come out as a result of such a discovery, is not remembered, Walter did end up going by his legal name, and would later move from England to New Zealand in 1938. </p>
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<p>However, the version of the story recorded on our ancestry, differs from this oral version. Rather, it says that Isabella's maiden name is Douglass and our Douglas ancestry is her line, Walter is listed as the child of Walter Jones and Isabella, and that the story regarding WW1 is: "volunteered for service aboard a paddle steamer across Dardinells and was issued with uniform. His mother protested he was under age. He also found his name was Douglass not Jones at this time. Walter spent the war in merchant navy -family history". His siblings are also listed with a variety of surnames, excluding married names (Douglass, Douglass-Jones, or a few even called Hogarth/Hoggarth- no reason for this is noted). And there are other details that are unlikely, such as the first child of Isabella and Walter Sr being born when they were 9 and 10 respectively. </p>
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<p>Our ancestry records were compiled by my grandmother, who began research into our family history over 50 years ago, and who has been digitalising her records for longer than I've been alive (I hope I'm not making anyone feel old in saying that), and unfortunately her memory has long been on the decline. There are many points on the family tree that I'm trying to clarify and correct, but unfortunately there are a lot of records to go over, and none of her children took much interest in genealogy, so there's no one I can ask for clarifications or fixes over such issues. If think you might know something, any help would be appreciated. Attached is an image of Walter Douglass, and his mother Isabella. </p> Douglas from Yarm, Yorkshiretag:douglashistory.ning.com,2011-07-08:3482022:Topic:273442011-07-08T16:11:37.274ZWilliam Douglashttps://douglashistory.ning.com/profile/WilliamDouglas
<p>I have received the following request for information:</p>
<p><em>My paternal grandmother was a Douglass who's family came from Loughborough, Leicestershire (James). We think that family was previously in Halifax (John) and before that in Yarm (THomas) in Yorkshire. They claim to descend from the Caver's line. A silver spoon handed down in the family has the Douglas Caver's crest on it. There is a possibility that the Yarm line was Catholic.Does this appear in any of your…</em></p>
<p>I have received the following request for information:</p>
<p><em>My paternal grandmother was a Douglass who's family came from Loughborough, Leicestershire (James). We think that family was previously in Halifax (John) and before that in Yarm (THomas) in Yorkshire. They claim to descend from the Caver's line. A silver spoon handed down in the family has the Douglas Caver's crest on it. There is a possibility that the Yarm line was Catholic.Does this appear in any of your records?</em></p>
<p>The Douglas Archives contains the following notable members of the family with Yarm connections:</p>
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<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/johndouglas23.htm">Bishop John Douglas</a> was born in 1743 in Yarm, Yorkshire, the son of John Douglass and Brigit Senson or Semson. </li>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/thomasdouglas4.htm">Thomas Douglas</a>, possibly barrister to Charles II, married Martha Kirton, daughter of James Kirton (Kearton) of Oxnop Hall, Swaledale, Yorkshire, England. It is thought that Thomas may have carried on his profession at Yarm, Yorkshire. </li>
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<p>Can anyone add more information?</p>
<p>William</p>
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