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My paternal line Morton has always regarded itself as of the Douglas clan. As a consequence through my years I have acquired my father's Douglas kilt, my grandfather's sporran, two Douglas kilts of my own and a pair of trews!! I don't want all that to be a pipe-dream.

I have traced my paternal line back to c. 1700 and it is a work in progress.

My question is - has the surname Morton been directly linked to a Douglas by any member researching their own family tree? I understand that retainers identified with, and bore allegiance to, a particular clan without necessarily being related by blood or marriage but I continue in the hope that there is a possible kinship link somewhere along the line.

Finding that a modern day Morton has discovered such a link would spur me on to greater efforts.

Jamais arriere!

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If you use the family search function in the genealogy database and search for Morton and Douglas as both father's name and as mother's name (ie two different searches) you will find some pairings

Yours aye,



Many thanks for pointing me to the family search function. I had not appreciated its significance. It came up with 1 match in Scotland, but in Glasgow. All my Mortons so far were in the Lothians. Nevertheless it gives me a start, if only to research the Glasgow husband.



Septs sometimes show up in STR clustering, so I pasted your Y STR data into the large Scottish Y DNA project with the results above:  your nearest common ancestor lived about 30 generations ago (~1000 AD) which links you to one kit claiming ancestry named McMeans.  Otherwise you have to go back >50 generations ago, long before clans or surnames existed.  In other words, there is no evidence of any connections to Douglas or any other clan in this large dataset.  Of course maternal lineage is entirely possible.

Thank you Robin

I admit to being a beginner when it comes to understanding STRs and SNPs. I had this vain hope that there would be a blood link to the Douglas, but DNA testing is still in its early days, and I've only been able to afford FTDNA 67 markers to date.

My maternal line all lies in Aberdeenshire so the further back you go, with less and less mobility, the less likely it is that there would be any link. I have done an mtDNA Full Sequence but surnames are of no use.



Making conections

The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.

Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.

Professions also help.

'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?

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