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Drysdale - a Douglas sept


Drysdale - a Douglas sept

Drysdale is considered a sept of the Douglas clan, but it is quite likely that this was a separate family which existed previous to when the three Douglas brothers adopted the Drysdale name. A sept is a family that can be related to a clan or larger family for various reasons. Usually this came about either through marriage or by a small family seeking protection from a larger and more powerful neighbour.

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Story of the creation of the Drysdale family

The following is said to tell the story of the creation of the Drysdale family, it was actually part of the Black Douglas clan which remained in Scotland, following their failed attempt against the Scots crown in 1455. [Earlier references to Drysdale, or Dryfesdale can be found]

"On the Twentieth Day of May, One Thousand Five Hundred and Three Years

We, Thomas, William, and James Douglass, sons of the departed Thomas Douglass, of Brushwood Haugh, in the parish of Drysdale, and Shire of Dumfries, left our native place for the reason here assigned, viz:- Defending our just and lawful rights against our unjust neighbour, Johnston of Greenstonhill, who, being determined to bring water to his mill through our property, and having obtained leave of his friend, the King, began his operations on Monday, the 16th of May, We prevented him by force.
The next day he brought twenty of his vassels to carry on the work. We with two friends and three servants, (eight in all,) attacked Johnston with his twenty, and, in the contest, fourteen of his men were killed, along with their base leader. A report of these proceedings was carried to the King, and we were obliged to fly, (the tocsin being sounded).
We took shelter under the shadow of the Ochil Hills, in a lonely valley on the river Devon. After having lived there a full two years, we returned home in disguise, but found all our property in the possession of Johnston's friends, and a great reward offered for our lives. We, having purchased a small spot, called the Haugh of Dollar, and changed our names to the name of our Parish, are clearly in mind to spend the residue of our days under the ope of the Ochils, and wish the name of Drysdale to flourish in the lonely valley. The King passed through this with his Court on the 12th of June, 1506, going from Stirling to Falkland - dined on Halliday's green. (an eastern neighbour;) but we were not recognised."

The above story has been preserved among the desendants of Thomas, William, and James Douglass, now known by the name of Drysdale, and copied at several times by different individuals - first, by Simon Drysdale of the Haugh of Dollar, in the year 1620; by Robert Drysdale of Tillicoultry, in 1708; by John Drysdale, Dunfermline, in 1835; by James Drysdale, Dumfermline, in 1838; by John Montrose Drysdale, in 1841; by George Drysdale, Aberdeen, in 1845; by David Drysdale, Glasgow, in 1857; by John Harrower Drysdale, Aylmer, Ontario, Canada, in 1920; and now by Nicholas Edwin Kontzie (great-great-grandson of Jane Drysdale), Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, in 2000.

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Comment by William Douglas on July 29, 2019 at 12:27

 Agnes Begbie Drysdale is the daughter of William Drysdale. She married Maj.-Gen. Robert Hutchison, 1st and last Baron Hutchison of Montrose, son of Alexander Hutchison, on 26 April 1905.
     From 26 April 1905, her married name became Hutchison.1 After her marriage, Agnes Begbie Drysdale was styled as Baroness Hutchison of Montrose on 30 June 1932.

I am guessing that Agnes is the daughter of Georgina Begbie and William Drysdale (1838-1902), himself the son of John Drysdale of Kilrie.  Elsewhere, she is described as an only daughter, and William and Georgina had only one daughter (and three sons)

Any opinions?

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on July 28, 2019 at 1:47

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on July 28, 2019 at 1:45


William Drysdale. Old faces, old places and old stories of Stirling               -LIST OF SUBSCRIBERS. 
Drysdale, Ex-Provost James, Bridge of Allan


Fountain of Nineveh (1851; fig 11) gifted by Major Henderson of Westerton
to celebrate recent Babylonian excavations; heron added by James Drysdale,
Chief Magistrate in 1895


Comment by William Douglas on July 27, 2019 at 18:17

James Drysdale was once the Provost of Bridge of Allan

Do we know any more about him?

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on July 27, 2019 at 0:14

[#1.] William's (1717-1757) son, [#2.] William Drysdale (1745-1825), was also Town Clerk of Kirkcaldy, and acquired the estate of Pitteuchar, in Kinglassie parish, in the early 1800s.

He was succeeded there by his son,[#3.] Sir William Drysdale (1781-1843), Writer to the Signet, who was knighted while City Treasurer of Edinburgh, 1841-1843.

Comment by William Douglas on July 26, 2019 at 21:15

Above from: The County Families of the United Kingdom 1869

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on July 23, 2019 at 0:47

ROYAL AUSTRALIAN NAVAL VOLUNTEER RESERVE. Promotions.- Acting Lieutenant- Commanders Arthur John Boyes, Clifford McDonald Sullivan, Gustaf Theodore Purees Lenz, Clarence Askew Byrne, D.S.C'., James Bernard Campbell and Frank Sydney Burnet Appleton, D.S.C., are promoted to the rank of Lieutenant- Commander, dated 31st December, 1949. Lieutenants John Darcy Shelley, James Benison Griffin, D..S.C., Kenneth Stuart Sutherland, Cecil William Wallach, D.S.C., William Da,rriwill Wright, Colin Philip Dickeson, D.S.C., Henry Charles John Lockyer, Graham Scholefield Mann, D.S.C., Hugh George Thom, Elford Bartlett Hopkins, Sandford Saul Nevile, Robert Haxton Grant, John Colin Patrick Boyle, Arthur Roy Pearson and Lindsay Brownfield Brand are promoted to the rank of Liei :tenant- Commander, dated 31st December, 1949. Engineer Lieutenant Thomas Wailes Robbins is promoted to the rank of Engineer Lieutenant Commander, dated 31st December, 1949. Acting Lieutenant Commander (Special Branch) Percy Harold Baile is promoted to the rank of Lieutenant- Commander (Special Branch), dated 31st December, 1949. Lieutenants (Special Branch) Lea Roy Wright. Maxwell Vernon Joy, George William Lilley, Alfred William Thomas Solomon, William Drysdale and Roy Atlee Bowra are promoted to the rank of Lieutenant -Commander                                       ( Special Branch). dated 31st December, 1949.-(Ex. Min. No. 25- Approved 11th March, 1950.) JOS. FRANCIS, Minister for the Navy.

Comment by William Douglas on September 1, 2017 at 19:50
Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on September 13, 2015 at 13:25

William Drysdale, a Well Known Shoe maker, Dies by Shooting Three
Bullets Into His Body.
ln a back yard, just behind his shop, a few minutes before 8 o'clock yesterday evening, William Drysdale, a well known Shoemaker of Taylor,
committed suicide by shooting himself three times in the left breast. The
deed was (lone with a small caliber weapon, and although two of the bullets went through his heart, the other one taking effect went an inch below, the unfortunate man lived a half hour, but did not recover consciousness.  He was removed to the station; house on Pine street and Dr. Honser was summoned Drysdale was beyond medical aid and expired without uttering a word .

Drysdale, in his gloomy moods, often said tie would end his life. He boarded with Thomas R. Nicholas, on Main street, where his remains were finally taken. He had been drinking heavily for the past two weeks. While at his shop Saturday morning shots were heard in that vicinity. Drysdale was found behind the shop In a greatly excited condition, and he shouted that his enemies were after him and meant
to take bis life. The revolver was taken from him.
Robert Moore met Drysdale after he left the Davis' drug store last evening and did not suspect that be was bent on self-destruction. When Mr. Moore parted with him Drysdale went to his shop and in a few minutes afterward three pistol shots rung out. He had gone to a coal house in the rear, leaned against the side of it and ended bis
About eight months ago he was waylaid at night by an unknown assailant and terribly beaten with a blackjack. Since then, whenever he gave himself up to drink, his actions have been queer. The act which ended his life yesterday was not unexpected.
     As far as is known be had not a relative in this country. His parents were Scotch, and he was about 36 years of age. Seven years ago ho took up his Residence in Taylor and did a thriving business at his trade. One laudable trait was his fondness for little children.
   He was troubled with melancholy,and the only cure he resorted to for
this morbid feeling was the liquor habit. Although uneducated his mind
was a storehouse of historical events,and he was skilled with a, talent for
mimicry that he often used for the amusement of his companions.

The Scranton tribune., September 17, 1894 ,  Scranton, Pennsylvania

So if this is correct his birth year would be in the area of 1858 +/- 1

  Any one missing a long lost uncle William , a shoe maker on their tree ? 

Comment by William Douglas on June 6, 2015 at 19:22

From the Telegraph of 19 February 2015: DOCKAR-DRYSDALE Charles Died at home on February the 14th after a long battle bravely fought with cancer.Adored and adoring husband of Susie,father of Adam, William and Emma and grandpa to eight very special grand children. Service at Cherington and Stourton village church at 12.30 on Tuesday the 3rd of March. Flowers welcome. Enquiries: Funeral directors R Locke and Son.

I take this to be Charles Nicholas Gordon Lloyd DOCKAR-DRYSDALE (b 1943), scion of the gentry family of that name of Wick Hall.


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