Which Douglas line are you researching? Dates and places help making connections.
My mother is Diane Collins (nee Douglas); her father was Thomas Leslie Douglas. We are from the line of Thomas and Phoebe Douglas who migrated from England to Western Australia.
Who is your earliest known Douglas ancestor?
Joseph Douglass (1752-1816) of Westminster, Middlesex m Ann Nicholson (1750 - 1815)
Marriage of Joseph Duglas to Ann Nicholson on 23rd January 1786 at St George's church, Hanover Square, the parish church of Mayfair - within the City of Westminster.
James Douglas the great Grandfather of Joseph Douglas (most probably) was a Mariner living in Wapping.
Regarding your post on 31.5.25 "Continuing the search for the Douglas family in Westminster"
I think I know where the apparent 'Westminster' problem lies.
It seems that past researchers have made a wrong assumption when looking at the ancestors of Joseph Douglas, including those who have contributed to the Douglas Archives Genealogy pages on this site.
The problem arises from the fact that there were two John Douglases born around the same time in London (1729 & 1731) and they both had 'James Douglas and Mary' as parents. One Douglas family lived in the city of Westminster and the other in the city of London:
.......The City of Westminster and the City of London are distinct areas within London, each with its own unique characteristics. The City of London is the historic financial center, known as "the Square Mile," while Westminster is the political and cultural center.....
The fact that these were two separate families from separate areas of London is best illustrated in the images below:
'Westminster' Douglases:
'City of London' Douglases:
Of interest here is the John Douglas, born 1729 at St Giles without Cripplegate, who was the father of Joseph Douglas baptised in 1752 at St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England
Ronald Drysdale
Marriage of Joseph Duglas to Ann Nicholson on 23rd January 1786 at St George's church, Hanover Square, the parish church of Mayfair - within the City of Westminster.
James Douglas the great Grandfather of Joseph Douglas (most probably) was a Mariner living in Wapping.
Best regards
May 31
Ronald Drysdale
Hi William,
Regarding your post on 31.5.25 "Continuing the search for the Douglas family in Westminster"
I think I know where the apparent 'Westminster' problem lies.
It seems that past researchers have made a wrong assumption when looking at the ancestors of
Joseph Douglas, including those who have contributed to the Douglas Archives Genealogy pages
on this site.
The problem arises from the fact that there were two John Douglases born around the same time in
London (1729 & 1731) and they both had 'James Douglas and Mary' as parents. One Douglas family lived in the city of Westminster and the other in the city of London:
.......The City of Westminster and the City of London are distinct areas within London, each with its
own unique characteristics. The City of London is the historic financial center, known as
"the Square Mile," while Westminster is the political and cultural center.....
The fact that these were two separate families from separate areas of London is best illustrated
in the images below:
'Westminster' Douglases:
'City of London' Douglases:
Of interest here is the John Douglas, born 1729 at St Giles without Cripplegate, who was the father of Joseph Douglas baptised in 1752 at St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England
Best regards
Jun 1
William Douglas
Sorting that was NOT on my todo list for today!
Thank you, Ronald for this deep dive into the two families. It is good to get them sorted out. Or it will be when I have done it.
William
Jun 2