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Douglas of Glendinning could they first been of Glendowin?

Something to consider and could use input on. The Douglas of Glendinnig, could originally be Glendowin. Since Glendinning was in the area to the west, and became predominately know, the Doulgas of Glendowin, became the Douglas of Glendinning.

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Comment by Mark Stephen Elliott on May 17, 2020 at 0:21
"August 5 According to Fordun the Scottish barons surprised by the attack of the English had barely time to take up their arms Douglas fought without a helmet and was fatally struck on the head The Earl of Moray also fought with the bare head John Swinton first rallied the Scots With the count of Douglas perished Robert Hart John Tower Simon of Glendowin and William Londy The latter was he a relative of the valiant chaplain Lundie whose exploits Froissart reports."

Though for Simon de (of) Glendowin, it is still likely the Douglas would consider themselves still of the lands of Glendinning, having a more well heard of land name.

Comment by Mark Stephen Elliott on May 17, 2020 at 0:06

Link to context;

Glendinning and nearby eastern Glendowin, are different localities on 1654 Blaeu maps. Glendinning still has farm and old school house one Glendinnig Flue, giving it name retention. Locality locations for the Little/Liddel and R-L193 Elliot seem to be nearer to Glendowin, but the surname of Glendinning traveled to Ulster in the 1610 Tyrone muster; 

It also seems by the Douglas, that the name Glendinning as opposed to Glndowin is the adopted name for these people of this region.

Comment by William Douglas on May 16, 2020 at 10:23

I dont know the context for this snippet:

Safe conducts for Archibald de Douglas and James de Douglas, sons of the earl of Dough*
sir William de Douglas of Nidcsdale, sir Simon de Glendowin, and six others.
O. viii. 457. H. iv. p. I. 104.

Comment by William Douglas on May 16, 2020 at 10:18

I hope you have good Latin?


Foedera, Conventiones, Literæ, Et cujuscunque generis ..., Volume 1; Volume 4

Comment by Mark Stephen Elliott on April 24, 2020 at 3:03

Making conections

The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.

Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.

Professions also help.

'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?

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