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At 20:06 on June 5, 2017, Linda Hildebrand said…

I'm trying to find primary records for which William Douglas/s is father to Capt. Aaron b. 1753 m. Phebe Lewis. He died in NJ, she moved with most of their kids to Knox County, Ohio.

To do this, I'm tapping both NJ and CT sources to try to find record of his ancestral migration. I'm interested in your Rogerenes theory. We've also established by maps and historical accounts another possibility: an ore/gold rush mid-1700s in Morris County, NJ.

The sole Douglas Rogerene mention I found so far seems to have come to NJ about 50 years earlier, but was in the line of William b. 1708. Like you, I believe Aaron's father is William b. 1710, a first (?) cousin). Strong evidence from birth/name patterns show Aaron's father William came to NJ to marry his brother Joshua's widow, who had 3 toddlers in the small area called Comb's Hollow, exactly where we find Aaron's dad starting his family about a year after Joshua died, with a wife by the same first name as Joshua's Sarah (Foote). My William's wife has no formal record of a surname except Douglas, which makes sense if she was widow Sarah Foote Douglas. Perhaps a reference to Aaron being buried beside his brother(s) refers to his half-brothers, Joshua's two sons, if William 1710 married his brother's widow.

I'm preparing to look into Rogerene history more at the Morristown Library soon. Any background you know would be helpful. If you have unresolved questions, fill me in and I'll look for answers. The Presbyterian church where at least one of Aaron's sons and at least one presumed half-brother are reportedly buried is next door to the library, too.

At 2:18 on April 8, 2015, james evans said…

 Betsey, my DNA  results from Ancestry are from an autosomal test, which test both my father and mother's side. My mother was a Douglass whose family came from Sebago, Maine. I think I have a connection with Bruce's side as my great-great grandfather was the brother to Seth Douglas who Bruce Douglass is connected with. With Ancestry I see no connection yet. I don't think there is any correlation with the Y test that Bruce took to find out that he had a connection with the William Douglass , born 1610 in New London. But this is getting interesting and I hope we can find some records of some sorts with this William Douglass family in the US and in Scotland. At least there is something to research at this point in finding a connection to John Douglas of Middleborough, Mass.

At 17:55 on April 7, 2015, james evans said…

 Hi Betsey, I am a decendant of John Douglas, born 1755 in Scarborough, Mass. His father was Elisha
Douglas who was the son of John Douglas of Middlebrough. On John Douglas of Middlebrough, born 1695, the info I have at this point is from the Howes family that a Lord Hamilton died in Paris in 1681, and he couldn't be the father to John Douglas that John Lufin Douglas claimed in his book on the Douglas family. I ask another question about the book and there was no valid researching when he wrote the book. Researchers in the US in those days had no means to research records in Scotland. I am very much interested about this DNA testing of the Douglas family. I did a DNA test for Ancestry and I have results that gives percentages of my DNA makeup of my father's and mother's side. It is on my mother's side where I am a decendant. 

At 17:22 on October 13, 2013, Lewis A King said…

Hi Betsey talk to you soon


At 20:26 on February 9, 2013, Sandy Douglas said…

Hi Betsey,  My husband and kids are descended from two of William and Ann's sons, Robert (line 1) and William (line 2) and can trace back to William and Ann 3 different ways. 

Line 1:  ROBERT-Mary Hempstead> THOMAS- Hannah Sperry>ROBERT-Sarah Edgecomb>DANIEL-Lydia Douglass(descended from William (line 2), daughter of William and Sarah Denison > CHRISTOPHER


Line 2:  WILLIAM-Abiah Hough> RICHARD-Margaret Abell > WILLIAM-Sarah Denison> LYDIA (see line 1) and her brother WILLIAM-Mary Lucas > IVORY- Phebe Smith > PHEBE DOUGLASS-CHRISTOPHER DOUGLASS (see line 1) >

CARLOS- Margaret Stewart > HORACE -Katherine Dunn > HAROLD-Mabel Butler> JACK- Joan Davis > PETER-Sandy Smith (That's us!) 

At 19:47 on December 18, 2012, Susan Morrell said…

Hi Betsey

Crikey you have been busy, thank you for your information, I believe Joseph died 1841, had 7 children altogether. I will email you.



At 0:03 on December 5, 2011, Frederic March Douglas, Jr. said…

Hi Betsey,

Your information looks promising and perhaps our research will meet up somewhere. Right now, I'm stuck with William Douglas who was born about 1802 in Virginia and later moved to Natchez, Mississippi area. He was in the 1880 census as 78 years old. I am assuming that I need to find out who were his owners to be able to track his ancestors.


At 13:19 on June 30, 2011, Stephen P Douglass said…
No, nothing new on Samuel.  I did find additional reference to Jonathan and William:

Revolutionary War Soldiers
Lansingburgh company of Col. Stephen I. Schuyler's Militia, Feb. 17, 1777:
Douglass, Jonathan, Sergeant
Douglass, William, Private.

 Yes, we are still planning a trip north (Jul-Aug), but I am undecided as to where to spend our limited time.  It will definitely be in the Pittstown area... just not sure where.

At 21:40 on May 29, 2011, Mindy porter said…
I would adore any information you might be willing to share! Thank you!!
At 21:37 on May 29, 2011, Mindy porter said…
I am the decendent of Robert Douglass 1815-1878 he was my Great Great Great Grandfather, He married Eliza Wrong and had Annie Eliza and William. William married Malena Bedgood and had my Great Grandmother Annie who married George Parsons Payne they had 2 children Douglass and Donald. Douglass married Jean Gibson Linklater. They have 4 Children my father Monroe married Janet Berich and they in turn had me :)
At 21:42 on April 18, 2011, Donna Wasser said…
Kevin did not give me anything on William b. 1666. What he gave me only went back to Wm b. 1710.
At 13:22 on April 10, 2011, Donna Wasser said…
We are from John. I would like to see the info about linking us to William & Ann. The last my Brother, Mark & Cousin, Kevin heard it was inconclusive.
At 14:23 on April 9, 2011, Donna Wasser said…
I just started looking. With the passing of my father, Manning Lewis, I had found some obituaries of Joseph & Robert. Mark is my brother. He had told me about the DNA test. He hasn't had a chance to share info with me. I just emailed Cousin, Kevin Berg, he's the one that asked my brother to do the test. He will be sending me what info he has. I would love to see what you have and compare info. Thanks, Donna L. Douglass Wasser
At 10:28 on July 21, 2009, William Douglas said…
Welcome aboard, Betsey.

I do not think the avatar really suits you! So I think I will have to find another onethat is more appropriate to lady members.

I look forward to reading your contributions, in due course.

Yours aye,


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'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

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