William Douglas's Comments

The ever-poplular William Douglas, 1640 to Massachussetts, via his dau. Sarah who m. John Keeney.

 

Oops, gotta go, it's almost Balvene time.

Tom

 

The info I have goes back to John Douglas born 1857 in Hawick and his Father,

Thomas Douglas but do not have birth date.

That chart is very interesting. I am wondering where it came from. Also, on what basis did the Douglas consider the McClellans as their vassals? Did the Red Douglas assume the properties of the Black Douglas  after their failed rebellion or did that pass to other hands? Thanks for your help.

Sir Patrick McClellan was the tutor of Bombie. So whose estates was he managing? Was the Earl of Douglas still a minor? Why did King James II intervene so urgently on behalf of Sir John Herries and McClellan? If they were someone else's vassals why would he care how the Earl of Douglas managed his own vassals? Would that not be deemed interference by Douglas? How do the Red Douglas view the McClellans now in modern times? Thanks for your help.

Mr. Douglas, thanks for your comment. I must confess that I am not a Douglas myself. I signed up here because I am doing some historical research into my own clan and wondering if I could find more information here on my own clan to compare notes. Sometimes various clans have different takes on what happened. My grandfather was a McClellan and although there is no proof that we actually descended from the Kirkcudbright clan these mysterious stories seem to be following us around. The McClellan and Douglas clans seem to have been at odds since the events of about 1450 involving the Black Douglas brothers whose rebellion against James II King of Scots failed miserably. What is not clear to me is what relationship the McClellans had if any with the Red Douglas clan. From America it is not so clear that they were even acquainted or whether they all fought together at Flodden Field against the English. Why was the Earl of Douglas  so angry with Sir John Herries and McClellan tutor of Bombie that he would see fit to haul them off and have their heads chopped off?

Thank you for the kind welcome!  Supposedly--although I am coming to learn that this could be in question--I am a descendent of Col. John Douglas, possible son of Sir Robert Douglas of Blackerstone. My great great grandmother, Virginia Walker Douglass, was the older sister of Anne McEldin Douglass, who is said to have commissioned the Newman book on the Douglases of Maryland and Virginia. Any leads or info you have on that would be appreciated!   

I actually have a  copy of Janet Douglas's birth certificate which will show her birth near Linton Scotland and I have a family tree, I think that Euphmia and John brought eight kids to Canada. Will find it and copy it Cathy Williamson

George Preston Douglas born November 20,1832 Campbell County,TN died November 10,1902 Ardmore,OK married Lucretia Wilhite born February 12,1836 Campbell County,TN died November 8,1878 Texas County,MO...George Preston and Lucretia had a son named Thomas Young Douglas born March 1,1854 TN. 

 

This is the Thomas Young Douglas that I'm looking at as a possible candidate for my gg grandfather.  Thanks to Paul Douglas for helping me find this info.  I hope this information helps you discover who I am.

 

If Thomas Young Douglas is my gg grandfather: 

Then James Douglas is his son.

Louis Douglas will be James's son.

Dorothy Jacquelin Douglas Ward was Louis's daughter, the baby.

Jackie Lee Douglas is Dorothy's first born son, which just so happens to be me.

 

If you need dates and such, I'll be happy to provide them.  I'll come back to this site tomorrow to fill in those other blanks.  Again, thanks William for all you do.

 

Jack 

William, it coud be that one, but I'm thinking that the Thomas Young Douglas I have in mind was born around 20 years later.  Let me verify this with Paul and I'll get back with you on this.  Thanks for all you do.

Hello William.  As far as I can verify, James Douglas b. circa 1880 in Texas Co., MO is my earliest ancestor.  He is my great grandfather.  I have narrowed my gg grandfather to two likely candidates...

 

1) Thomas Young Douglas b. Campbell Co., TN

2) William Green Douglas b. Casey Co., KY

 

Either one of these two.  If my gg grandfather is #1, then our mutual friend Paul J Douglas can help me fill in the blanks, because he comes from that same line....

 

If my gg grandfather is #2, then I still have a lot of work ahead of me at this point.

 

I have a copy of my great grandfather's death certificate.  As an informant, my grand aunt (his daughter) listed his father as *unknown.*  I ask my aunts who James' father was and I have conflicting answers... so here I am.

 

I hope this answered your question.  And I haven't had a chance to check if James is here in the archives or not.  I'm about to find out.

 

Thanks.

Jack

What is your e-mail address?  I think i can send this way

It is a *.pps slide show file and I am having trouble sending it, any suggestions?

William:

 

I have a slide show presintation from the Douglas Heritage Museum, a power point presintation,  it runs for about three minutes. Are you interested?

 

Bill Douglas

not to far but jennifer douglass is my cousin tha t is how i got to ur name

Yes we are back to the John Douglas that Married Eunice Ratliff Rattleleaf. Very funny i know that my line ties to him and i have just posted a blog that gives the names and dates of everyone that i know. I hope that it helps and that it will answer others questions as well as my own about John and Eunice and the rest of the line.

Thank you for your response sir, as i am new to this i am willing to help where i can and as far as where i can trace back to the last name that i have found in my tree is

William Douglas, son of Archibald Douglas and Margaret de Crawford. I have traced it down through the records and i have hit a brick wall when i came to the child of John Douglas and Lydia Southworth, in my records i show a child named Warren but i can find no trace of him.  I would love to post all of the information that i have but i am unsure of how to go about doing that. any pointers would help because i would love to share this info.

William

 

Thank you so much for the information on my family. The Theodore Roosevelt Douglas you found is not my grandfather since I know he passed away in the 1930's. I think you may have something on John Douglas being one of the early radio evangelists. I know that he definitely was on the radio and that he did sponsor missionaries.  Will start to see if I can find more info about him from the Texas site you suggested. Again thank you for your help.

 

Sincerely

 

Steven J. Douglas

I completely understand.  What I should have clarified, was that the tree from which I got the Scottish information was not my own tree, but another member's tree.  The leads I need are for the 1800's and partially the 1700's, I believe could be verified through census and/or court records, if I knew the names.  This is a portion of the other member's tree in which some names were listed as Unknown. If there is a connection to the Scottish Douglas line, it would pick up from my "missing" generations to Thomas Douglas (1740-1830) of Virginia.  I'm wondering if a different approach could be to obtain the lineage from Thomas Douglas forward through his descendants and see if they lead to my known Douglas family (since I've hit a brick wall searching from my known family backward).  At least this way, I would either find the leads I need for my "missing" generations or know that my hunch about the Scottish connection is incorrect.  I hope I cleared things up somewhat.  This can get so confusing.  And I would like to thank you for helping and corresponding with me.

The earliest Douglas on my tree is Henry Douglas (abt 1846), married to Joicey Hawsey (1846), both of Alabama (around Conecuh County).  Both appear as next-door neighbors as toddlers on the 1850 census.  While on ancestry.com, I found another member's tree which traces my Douglas family back to William I  (1145) however there weren't any supporting documents to prove it.  That is how I found this wonderful website.  I pray I can find lots of help here.