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Drysdale is considered a sept of the Douglas clan, but it is quite likely that this was a separate family which existed previous to when the three Douglas brothers adopted the Drysdale name. A sept is a family that can be related to a clan or larger family for various reasons. Usually this came about either through marriage or by a small family seeking protection from a larger and more powerful neighbour.
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The following is said to tell the story of the creation of the Drysdale family, it was actually part of the Black Douglas clan which remained in Scotland, following their failed attempt against the Scots crown in 1455. [Earlier references to Drysdale, or Dryfesdale can be found]
We, Thomas, William, and James Douglass, sons of the departed Thomas Douglass, of Brushwood Haugh, in the parish of Drysdale, and Shire of Dumfries, left our native place for the reason here assigned, viz:- Defending our just and lawful rights against our unjust neighbour, Johnston of Greenstonhill, who, being determined to bring water to his mill through our property, and having obtained leave of his friend, the King, began his operations on Monday, the 16th of May, We prevented him by force.
The next day he brought twenty of his vassels to carry on the work. We with two friends and three servants, (eight in all,) attacked Johnston with his twenty, and, in the contest, fourteen of his men were killed, along with their base leader. A report of these proceedings was carried to the King, and we were obliged to fly, (the tocsin being sounded).
We took shelter under the shadow of the Ochil Hills, in a lonely valley on the river Devon. After having lived there a full two years, we returned home in disguise, but found all our property in the possession of Johnston's friends, and a great reward offered for our lives. We, having purchased a small spot, called the Haugh of Dollar, and changed our names to the name of our Parish, are clearly in mind to spend the residue of our days under the ope of the Ochils, and wish the name of Drysdale to flourish in the lonely valley. The King passed through this with his Court on the 12th of June, 1506, going from Stirling to Falkland - dined on Halliday's green. (an eastern neighbour;) but we were not recognised."
The above story has been preserved among the desendants of Thomas, William, and James Douglass, now known by the name of Drysdale, and copied at several times by different individuals - first, by Simon Drysdale of the Haugh of Dollar, in the year 1620; by Robert Drysdale of Tillicoultry, in 1708; by John Drysdale, Dunfermline, in 1835; by James Drysdale, Dumfermline, in 1838; by John Montrose Drysdale, in 1841; by George Drysdale, Aberdeen, in 1845; by David Drysdale, Glasgow, in 1857; by John Harrower Drysdale, Aylmer, Ontario, Canada, in 1920; and now by Nicholas Edwin Kontzie (great-great-grandson of Jane Drysdale), Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, in 2000.
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Hi. In the story of the creation of the Drysdale family, it is said that the 3 brothers took shelter beneath the Ochil Hills. The locations of Alva, Tillicoultry, and Dollar within the county of Clackmannan are situated consecutively from west to east beneath the Ochil Hills. The total number of Drysdales from census data in various locations within the counties of Clackmannan and Fife are described below.
CENSUS YEAR | |||
LOCATION | 1841 | 1881 | 1921 |
DUNFERMLINE | 187 | 142 | 114 |
ALVA | 116 | 47 | 14 |
TULLIALLAN | 86 | 42 | 27 |
TILLICOULTRY | 65 | 48 | 12 |
CLACKMANNAN | 63 | 55 | 4 |
ALLOA | 52 | 64 | 67 |
CULROSS | 45 | 8 | 1 |
DOLLAR | 36 | 34 | 13 |
DALGETY BAY | 31 | 9 | 4 |
ST. ANDREWS | 1 | 1 | 6 |
CUPAR | 0 | 9 | 10 |
KIRKCALDY | 0 | 2 | 14 |
TOTAL | 682 | 461 | 286 |
Mary Queen of Scots first visited Lochleven Castle in 1561 as a guest of its owner, Sir William Douglas. Her last stay, in 1567–8, was as his prisoner.
A link between John Drysdale & Sir William Douglas of Lochleven, dated 1569, following Mary's imprisonment there, has been been copied from the Exchequer Rolls of Scotland vol 20 1568-1579 and is shown below:
The CDAA newsletters about the Drysdale family can be found here:
http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/CDAA&CDSA/CDAA_newslett...
It is possible to find quite a few early Drysdales in the Exchequer Rolls of Scotland in the period 1480-1513, this was first pointed out in the 1989 edition of the Clan Douglas Association of Australia Newsletter in a very good article by Neil M D Ewins.
The Exchequer rolls are available for download on the Internet Archive website and I've extracted the data I've found there:
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1480-1487 Vol 9
Drummy (Drumme) in Tullicultre let to John Drisdale and others, 569, 601
Drysdale (Drisdale, Dryisdale), Andrew, tenant of Hervyisdawac, 569, 602, 635.
Drysdale Janet, tenant of Coschnachtan and Hervyisdawak, 569 ; of Eliotisdawac, dead, 602.
Drysdale John, son of Maurice, tenant of Drummy, 569, 601
Drysdale, John, junior, tenant of Drummy, 569, 601.
Drysdale John, tenant of Schanach, 635.
Drysdale Margaret, tenant of Schanach, 635.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Eliotisdawac, 569,602, 635
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1488-1496 Vol 10
Drivisdale (c/. Drysdale), mill of, let to William Bell of Aikin, 655.
Tillicoultry
Drysdale, Andrew, his widow tenant of Hervisdawak, 668; died, 733.
Drysdale David, tenant of Coschnachtain, 668, 733.
Drysdale Isabel, widow of John Proudy, tenant of Hervisdawak, 733.
Drysdale John, tenant of Drummy and Schan-nach, 668, 733, 758.
Drysdale John, son of Andrew, tenant of Hervisdawak, 733.
Drysdale John, son of Robert, tenant of Ellokisdawak with his father, 668, 733, 758.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Ellokisdawak with John his son, 668, 773, 758.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Drummy and Schannach, 668, 733, 758.
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1497-1501 vol 11
Dryisdale, Cuthbert, tenant of Coischnach- tane, 411.
Drysdale John, tenant of Drummy, 411; of Hervyisdawak, 412.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Elokisdawak, 412.
Drysdale Thomas, tenant of Drumniy, 411.
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1502-1507 Vol 12
Dryisdale (Drisdale), Cuthbert, tenant of Cosnauchtane, 639, 681.
Drysdale John, son of Robert, tenant of Ellokkis Dawok, 639; do.,
in place of his late father, 681; tenant of Herwisdawik and Drummy, 639, 681.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Ellokkis Dawok, dead, 639.
Drysdale Thomas, tenant of Drummy, 639,681.
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1508-1513 Vol 13
Dryisdale, Cuthbert, tenant of Coschnauch- tane, 641.
Drysdale John, tenant of Drummy, 641 ; of Ellokis Dawok, 641; of Herwist Dawok, 641.
Drysdale Thomas, tenant of Drummy, 641.
Dunfermline Abbey grave markers
1_new_ground__database.pdf (dunfermlineheritage.org)
https://douglashistory.ning.com/group/drysdale-archives/page/collec... [photo by William Douglas]
The Admiralty yesterday [August 1950] issued the following statement:
"A small Royal Marine Commando Unit under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel D.B. Drysdale, R.M., is being formed for very early dispatch by air to the Far East for service in Korea. This is in addition to the Royal Marine Commando Brigade in Malaya, which
will continue operations. For reasons of operational security, it is not desirable to publicise the size and composition, or the times of departure and arrival of this unit."
Lieutenant-Colonel Drysdale, M.B.E., R.M., who is 33, joined the
battle cruiser Renown at the outbreak of war and subsequently served
as a Captain with 101 R.M. Brigade. In 1943 he was appointed
Brigade Major to the Third Commando Brigade in Burma. Two years
later he was appointed to the command of 44 Commando. Promoted
Major in December, 1949, he became chief instructor at the R.M.
Officers' School at Plymouth last January.
© The Times, 22nd August 1950
Colonel Drysdale of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders had his portrait painted by Hermann Schmiechen (1855–1895).
It hangs in Dumbarton Castle, not a million miles from where I live.
I will try to visit when that is allowed to find out more.
Grade A pipers with their trophies awarded by Norman Maclean in 2006
L-R: George Stewart, Norman MacLean, Nathan Drysdale, Glenn Ross.
The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.
Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?
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