Drysdale is considered a sept of the Douglas clan, but it is quite likely that this was a separate family which existed previous to when the three Douglas brothers adopted the Drysdale name. A sept is a family that can be related to a clan or larger family for various reasons. Usually this came about either through marriage or by a small family seeking protection from a larger and more powerful neighbour.
William Douglas
James Drysdale was once the Provost of Bridge of Allan
https://holeousia.com/time-passes-listen/bridge-of-allan/105-hender...
Do we know any more about him?
Jul 27, 2019
Russell Lynn Drysdale
https://deriv.nls.uk/dcn23/8526/85268199.23.pdf
source: https://deriv.nls.uk/dcn23/8526/85268199.23.pdf
William Drysdale. Old faces, old places and old stories of Stirling -LIST OF SUBSCRIBERS.
Drysdale, Ex-Provost James, Bridge of Allan
source:http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/william-drysdale/old-faces-ol...
Fountain of Nineveh (1851; fig 11) gifted by Major Henderson of Westerton
to celebrate recent Babylonian excavations; heron added by James Drysdale,
Chief Magistrate in 1895
source: https://my.stirling.gov.uk/media/3716/bridge-of-allan-ca-app.pdf
Jul 28, 2019
Russell Lynn Drysdale
Jul 28, 2019
William Douglas
Agnes Begbie Drysdale is the daughter of William Drysdale. She married Maj.-Gen. Robert Hutchison, 1st and last Baron Hutchison of Montrose, son of Alexander Hutchison, on 26 April 1905.
From 26 April 1905, her married name became Hutchison.1 After her marriage, Agnes Begbie Drysdale was styled as Baroness Hutchison of Montrose on 30 June 1932.
I am guessing that Agnes is the daughter of Georgina Begbie and William Drysdale (1838-1902), himself the son of John Drysdale of Kilrie. Elsewhere, she is described as an only daughter, and William and Georgina had only one daughter (and three sons)
Any opinions?
Jul 29, 2019
William Douglas
A Drysdale family in Batavia.
from left to right:
Dee Drysdale (background with glasses, great aunt of mine)), Thomas Drysdale (foreground in chair, great-grandfather), Rob Drysdale (uncle, boy in background next to aunt Dee), Peter Drysdale (uncle, next to Rob), Ben Drysdale (great uncle, in chair), Suze Drysdale-Turpijn (great-grandmother), Jane Mary Drysdale (my mother), unknown to me (with glasses .. who knows it may say)
This photo was taken in Batavia, near the Theresiakerk / Theresiakerkweg ... as far as I know. I don't know any professions, only that my grandfather Thomas Cochrane Drysdale (not on photo) worked at the Government House Service (and sergeant at the KNIL) and died on / at the Burma railway in 1943.
Greetings, Ben Franken
Jul 30, 2019
William Douglas
Searched high and low - and then found the link with James Cuniston, Sheriff-Clerk of Lanarkshire in my own library! From the 'Lost Mansions of Lanarkshire', by Dan Sweeney
Jerviston.pdf
Aug 3, 2019
William Douglas
The Drysdale/Wharrie connection
https://historic-hamilton.co.uk/tag/major-james-drysdale/
Major James Drysdale is the son of William Drysdale of Pitteuchar and Anne Cunison, daughter of the Sheriff-Clerk of Hamilton
Aug 3, 2019
William Douglas
On a visit to Cambuskenneth, a ruined Augustinian monastery located on an area of land enclosed by a meander of the River Forth near Stirling in Scotland, I found a Drysdale grave marker is the small cemetery attached to the abbey.
Sep 7, 2019
Russell Lynn Drysdale
in re : James Drysdale once Provost of Bridge of Allan , in William Drysdales book Auld Biggins of Sterling there are a few old photos of Bridge of Allen.
Sep 8, 2019
William Douglas
Drysdales in South America
http://sabrits.co.uk/D.php
Sep 17, 2019
Russell Lynn Drysdale
Sep 18, 2019
Russell Lynn Drysdale
Sep 18, 2019
Russell Lynn Drysdale
Photos of sign and windmill courtesy of Francisco Dean, location Argentina
Sep 18, 2019
Russell Lynn Drysdale
Drysdales in South America
http://www.argbrit.org/Saudades/Saudades.htm
Ctrl+F search Drysdale
Sep 26, 2019
Russell Lynn Drysdale
In re the photo labeled ''A Drysdale family in Batavia'' Ben Franken states ....I don't know any professions... Thomas [Conrad] Drysdale (foreground in chair, great-grandfather) End of May 1930, upon request, due to physical
aptitude, with honor and with claim to retirement from the national service, Th. C. Drijsdale, civil servant on social assistance, most recently
Clerk at the department Compatibility
regional office in Jemarang.
.
Nov 10, 2019
William Douglas
New entry on Wikipedia: William Drysdale, cricketer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Drysdale
Oct 6, 2020
Russell Lynn Drysdale
Very interesting Robert Wang , However , When you run across someone Douglas or Drysdale who can connect to that document with actual genealogy please do let me and others know .
Oct 6, 2020
William Douglas
Thank you, Robert.
I would be very happy if you were to take forward the proposed DNA project.
William
Oct 7, 2020
William Douglas
Grade A pipers with their trophies awarded by Norman Maclean in 2006
L-R: George Stewart, Norman MacLean, Nathan Drysdale, Glenn Ross.
Oct 15, 2020
William Douglas
Colonel Drysdale of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders had his portrait painted by Hermann Schmiechen (1855–1895).
It hangs in Dumbarton Castle, not a million miles from where I live.
I will try to visit when that is allowed to find out more.
Dec 22, 2020
William Douglas
The Admiralty yesterday [August 1950] issued the following statement:
"A small Royal Marine Commando Unit under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel D.B. Drysdale, R.M., is being formed for very early dispatch by air to the Far East for service in Korea. This is in addition to the Royal Marine Commando Brigade in Malaya, which
will continue operations. For reasons of operational security, it is not desirable to publicise the size and composition, or the times of departure and arrival of this unit."
Lieutenant-Colonel Drysdale, M.B.E., R.M., who is 33, joined the
battle cruiser Renown at the outbreak of war and subsequently served
as a Captain with 101 R.M. Brigade. In 1943 he was appointed
Brigade Major to the Third Commando Brigade in Burma. Two years
later he was appointed to the command of 44 Commando. Promoted
Major in December, 1949, he became chief instructor at the R.M.
Officers' School at Plymouth last January.
© The Times, 22nd August 1950
Dec 22, 2020
Russell Lynn Drysdale
https://douglashistory.ning.com/group/drysdale-archives/page/collec... [photo by William Douglas]
Dec 24, 2020
William Douglas
Dunfermline Abbey grave markers
1_new_ground__database.pdf (dunfermlineheritage.org)
Jul 6, 2021
Ronald Drysdale
It is possible to find quite a few early Drysdales in the Exchequer Rolls of Scotland in the period 1480-1513, this was first pointed out in the 1989 edition of the Clan Douglas Association of Australia Newsletter in a very good article by Neil M D Ewins.
The Exchequer rolls are available for download on the Internet Archive website and I've extracted the data I've found there:
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1480-1487 Vol 9
Drummy (Drumme) in Tullicultre let to John Drisdale and others, 569, 601
Drysdale (Drisdale, Dryisdale), Andrew, tenant of Hervyisdawac, 569, 602, 635.
Drysdale Janet, tenant of Coschnachtan and Hervyisdawak, 569 ; of Eliotisdawac, dead, 602.
Drysdale John, son of Maurice, tenant of Drummy, 569, 601
Drysdale, John, junior, tenant of Drummy, 569, 601.
Drysdale John, tenant of Schanach, 635.
Drysdale Margaret, tenant of Schanach, 635.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Eliotisdawac, 569,602, 635
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1488-1496 Vol 10
Drivisdale (c/. Drysdale), mill of, let to William Bell of Aikin, 655.
Tillicoultry
Drysdale, Andrew, his widow tenant of Hervisdawak, 668; died, 733.
Drysdale David, tenant of Coschnachtain, 668, 733.
Drysdale Isabel, widow of John Proudy, tenant of Hervisdawak, 733.
Drysdale John, tenant of Drummy and Schan-nach, 668, 733, 758.
Drysdale John, son of Andrew, tenant of Hervisdawak, 733.
Drysdale John, son of Robert, tenant of Ellokisdawak with his father, 668, 733, 758.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Ellokisdawak with John his son, 668, 773, 758.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Drummy and Schannach, 668, 733, 758.
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1497-1501 vol 11
Dryisdale, Cuthbert, tenant of Coischnach- tane, 411.
Drysdale John, tenant of Drummy, 411; of Hervyisdawak, 412.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Elokisdawak, 412.
Drysdale Thomas, tenant of Drumniy, 411.
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1502-1507 Vol 12
Dryisdale (Drisdale), Cuthbert, tenant of Cosnauchtane, 639, 681.
Drysdale John, son of Robert, tenant of Ellokkis Dawok, 639; do.,
in place of his late father, 681; tenant of Herwisdawik and Drummy, 639, 681.
Drysdale Robert, tenant of Ellokkis Dawok, dead, 639.
Drysdale Thomas, tenant of Drummy, 639,681.
The Exchequer rolls of Scotland 1508-1513 Vol 13
Dryisdale, Cuthbert, tenant of Coschnauch- tane, 641.
Drysdale John, tenant of Drummy, 641 ; of Ellokis Dawok, 641; of Herwist Dawok, 641.
Drysdale Thomas, tenant of Drummy, 641.
Apr 21, 2023
William Douglas
The CDAA newsletters about the Drysdale family can be found here:
http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/CDAA&CDSA/CDAA_newslett...
Apr 22, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Mary Queen of Scots first visited Lochleven Castle in 1561 as a guest of its owner, Sir William Douglas. Her last stay, in 1567–8, was as his prisoner.
A link between John Drysdale & Sir William Douglas of Lochleven, dated 1569, following Mary's imprisonment there, has been been copied from the Exchequer Rolls of Scotland vol 20 1568-1579 and is shown below:
Apr 26, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Two early Drysdales of note:
Sir Andrew Drysdale , Chaplain, St Margaret's Chapel, Edinburgh Castle, 1559
Thomas Drysdale Islay Herald at King Charles 1 Coronation 1630
Apr 28, 2023
Robert Wang
Hi. In the story of the creation of the Drysdale family, it is said that the 3 brothers took shelter beneath the Ochil Hills. The locations of Alva, Tillicoultry, and Dollar within the county of Clackmannan are situated consecutively from west to east beneath the Ochil Hills. The total number of Drysdales from census data in various locations within the counties of Clackmannan and Fife are described below.
Apr 30, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Some references to the name Drysdale in Historical Records, Books etc. 1490-1650
James Drivissdale Culross
James Drysdale Lochleven
Andrew Drysdale, Clackmannanshire
Achilles Drysdale & David Drysdale of Drymen
John Drysdale of Tillicoultry
John Drysdale, Clackmannanshire
William Drysdale, Black Barony
James Drysdaill, Leith, Cowsogall
James Drysdaill, Alva, Clackmannanshire
May 3, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
30-5-1555 Charter at Edinburgh - Link between John Drysdale, William Douglas of Lochleven & Mary Queen of Scots.
Page 1
Page 2
May 4, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Some addditional references to Thomas Drysdaill the Islay-Herald, Also Bessie Hunter, Elizabeth Stuart, Queen of Bohemia & Sir Johne Campbell.
May 4, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
After an extensive records search for people with the name Drysdale (before the year 1600) I've managed to come up with a fairly comprehensive list of just under one hundred people, mostly in Clackmannanshire and Fife, and, as far as I can tell, these represent the totality of the known Drysdale 'Clan' in that era - see picture below and attached pdf file:
and the pdf file:
Listing%20of%20all%20early%20Drysdales%20pre-1600%20mentioned%20in%...
Of course there must have been a number of other Drysdales living in Scotland during this period, but as yet, no reference or source material has been found to indicate their existence.
May 6, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Thanks Robert,
Referring to your earlier post on Drysdales in Clackmannanshire in the 1841,1881 and 1921 census, I also did a records search on Drysdale births on the 'Scotlandspeople', 'Find my past' and 'Freereg' websites for the period 1600-1650 and this shows the family name very much concentrated in the Clackmannanshire, Edinburgh and Fife regions in Scotland:
Scotlands People - Births only 1600-1650 - all Scotland
Freereg + FindmyPast - Births only 1600-1650 - all England
County/City
County/City
Aberdeen
1
Yorkshire
4
Berwick
7
Essex
3
Clackmannan
91
Norfolk
1
Dumfries
2
London
5
Edinburgh Midlothian
88
Warwickshire
1
Fife
59
Durham
3
Perth
8
Lincolnshire
1
256 Births total
Northumberland
3
21 Births total
May 6, 2023
William Douglas
I did a search of the Douglas Archives for:
Last Name contains Drysdale AND Birth Year less than 1600 AND Tree equals My Genealogy
and found only five named:
http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/famgen/search.php?mybool=AND&nr...
William
May 7, 2023
Russell Lynn Drysdale
William , on Douglas Archives my genealogy -a year or so ago I looked and found none listed prior 1503.
May 7, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Skirmish at Drumlanrig and the burning of Dryfesdale
May 7, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Some references to the Lands and Barony of Dryfesdale, in the period 1100 - 1580:
The Church
Robert de Brus
Ingebald
De Bois
Crichton
Patrick Hepburn, Earl of Bothwell
Carruthers
Francis Stewart, Earl of Bothwell
See attached pdf
The%20Lands%20and%20Barony%20of%20Dryfesdale%20for%20pdf.pdf
May 14, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Scottish Heraldry and Thomas Drysdale, the Islay Herald
Sir David Lyndsay of the Mount (c.1486 – c.1555) was a Scottish knight, poet, and herald who gained the highest heraldic office of Lyon King of Arms.
In 1542, he produced a Scottish roll of arms known today as the Lindsay of the Mount Roll.
It contains 400 Scottish coats of arms, some of which were added later in the 16th century, and forms the basis of the official Scots heraldic registry in use today.
Another copy of the facsimile comprising accurate redrawing of his own drawings was published in Edinburgh in 1878.
https://electricscotland.com/heraldry/facsimileofancientheraldic.pdf
Plate 64 shows the arms of Lord Boyis of Dryvisdaill of auld.
The content of the book and register of arms was approved by the Lords of His Majesty's Privy Council at Holyroodhouse on 9th December 1630. Signed by Sir James Balfour Lyone and Thomas Drysdaill, the Islay Herald
May 16, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
James Dryisdaill's birth on 4th November 1573 to parents Jhone Dryisdaill & Margaret Duglas at Dunfermline - ScotlandsPeople website
November 1573
- The 4 day Jhone Dryisdaill had a man child born to him of his wyf Margaret Duglas baptised and called James.
May 22, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Douglas of Lochleven & James Drysdale
Reference - A series of Ancient Charters of the Earldom of Morton - The Bannatyne Club
4 July 1566: Pardon from Henry and Mary Queen of Scots to William Douglas of Lochleven and four others including Jacobus [James] Drysdaill for their earlier support for the Earl of Morton
Source plus transcription also attached as pdf
The%20Bannatyne%20club%20%20-%20A%20SERIES%20OF%20Ancient%20CHARTER...
Jun 11, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
James Drysdale, the trusted servant of William Douglas of Lochlevin, had a family
It would appear that James Drysdale, who was singled out for harsh words in a letter by Mary Queen of Scots in 1568/9 for saying he would like to put a sword to her heart, had a life outside Lochleven Castle.
The 18-4-1565 birth record of one Kirsten Drysdeill states:
"The 18th day James Drysdeill had a woman chyld born in fornication of Margaret Donaldson alias Whyt Wyndo baptizit and callit Kirsten." - Lochlevin in margin.
So he was a bit of a rascal in his private life also!
A copy of the Scotlandspeople image of this record is copied below:
Aug 16, 2023
Russell Lynn Drysdale
Old road above Bridge of Allan , now a footpath.
Sep 4, 2023
Robert Wang
Excellent photo Russell Lynn!
Sep 5, 2023
Ronald Drysdale
Old boys network
Ref: Roll of Canongate Burgesses – Edinburgh - 1622 to 1733
William Drysdale was entered onto the Roll of Canongate Burgesses on 7th August 1673 at the request of Lieut Joseph Douglas, who was himself entered on the Roll on 27th May 1669
Feb 24
William Douglas
Kelly's Handbook; 1957
Feb 27
William Douglas
Sir Matthew Watt Drysdale with HM Queen:
https://www.alamy.com/the-queen-at-lloyds-the-queen-wearing-a-gown-...
Feb 27
William Douglas
Some light reading, perhaps?
“Madam,” said old Dryfesdale the steward, “this much do I say for this silly page, that he could not be accessary to unlocking the doors, since I myself this night bolted him out of the castle. Whoever limned this night-piece, the lad's share in it seems to have been small.”
“Thou liest, Dryfesdale,” said the Lady, “and wouldst throw the blame on thy master's house, to save the worthless life of a gipsy boy.”
Extract from 'The Abbot', by Sir Walter Scott
Apr 9
Ronald Drysdale
Some further light reading about (Jasper Dryfesdale) James Drysdale & Mary Queen of Scots:
While Scott's 'The Abbott' was supposed to be a work of fiction (but based on historical fact) Henry Glassford Bell's account of James Drysdale in the 'Life of Mary Queen of Scots, Volume 2, published around the same time as The Abbott, was allegedly factual but appears to have been a highly opinionated & slightly malicious hit job (based on the paucity of evidence at his disposal)
.....Margaret Erskine, the Lady of Loch-Leven, and widow of Sir Robert Douglas, who fell at the battle of Pinkie one-and-twenty years before, was a woman of a proud temper and austere disposition. Soured by early disappointment, for, previous to her marriage with Sir Robert, she had been one of the rejected mistresses of James V., she chose to indulge her more malignant nature in continually exalting her illegitimate offspring the Earl of Murray above his lawful Queen, now her prisoner.
Her servants, of course, took their tone from their mistress; and there was one in particular, named James Drysdale, who held a place of some authority in her household, and who, having had some concern in the murder of Rizzio, and being a bigoted and unprincipled fanatic, entertained the most deadly hatred against Mary, and had been heard to declare, that it would give him pleasure to plunge a dagger into her heart’s blood. This savage probably succeeded in spreading similar sentiments among the other domestics; and thus the Queen’s very life seemed to hang upon the prejudices and caprices of menials........
Apr 9
William Douglas
I dont recall seeing this before...
But probably have!
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/127413994/william-drysdale
I have sugested an edit in that if he was 62 at date of death he could not have been born in 1776
May 22
William Douglas
Drysdale war casualties
CasualtySearch_12_08_2024_05.csv
Aug 13