Douglas dna

34 members

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A group for those who are using dna to trace their ancestors.

The intention is NOT to replace the existing dna group, but to facilitate discussions amongst those who are not part of that group.
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  • Lawrence Henry Douglas

    Thus far my participation in the DNA group has not brought down my brick walls, but I have gained valuable insight into my ancestral heritage. My initial 12 marker test was of limited use so I moved to the 37 marker test. These results were of more benefit as they identified my haplotype (R1a1) which connected me with the Douglas of Drumlanrig, Earl of Queensbury, and Douglas of Morton lines.

    Even though I have close matches with several members of the Douglas DNA group we have not found a common ancestor - yet. The more we communicate the better our chances for making those connections.

    I have my line back to the late 1770s in Ayrshire with my direct line immigrating to Quebec and Ontario, Canada in the 1840s with a move across the St. Lawrence River to Watertown, NY around 1930. I look forward to sharing my Douglas family history.

    Jun 28, 2010

  • William Douglas

    See blog post of 19th August for an update on DNA results.

    Aug 19, 2010

  • William Douglas

    Anatole Klyosov has published analysis of the R1a1 Douglas markers, in the most recent version of the Proceedings of the Russian Academy of DNA Genealogy. You will find the article at the end of the document in the letters section. Most of the document is in Russian however the letters section is in English (Page 1680).

    http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_68/9256000/9256889/1/print/9256889...
    This is a large document so may take some time to download.

    Aug 23, 2010

  • William Douglas

    The following mesage has just been published on the Douglas DNA website:

     

    A yahoo discussion group has been formed for this group. Membership is open to membership of the DNA project, and to other interested in joining or discussing the results and purposes of the group.
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/douglasDNA/?yguid=132306060

    There is now a map on the site showing the origins of the most distant ancestors. Please update your personal page with the co-ordinates of your ancestor's origins. This will then update the map.

    I have added a facility to this site for contributions to a fund for the project. I foresee that we will want to obtain DNA samples from some people who can already trace their lines back to William (1174). Some of these people may not have an interest in family history and may not see any reason to have their DNA tested. So we may need to contribute to the cost of the some tests if we are to get the information we need.

    So please consider making a contribution to a fund for this purpose. This is a particularly suitable way for females and Non-Douglas surname males who want to see their lines defined.

    The Douglas/Gordon connection.
    we have found unexpected perfect matches (37 markers) between 2 of our Douglas members and a group of Gordon Surname members. This raises the liklihood of a common ancestor. Was he a Douglas or a Gordon?! We have started a discussion group between the affected members of the 2 families to work on this. Contact the co-ordinators if you are interested in this group.

    Since 26 January 2011, Y-DNA results in the Douglas Project have been grouped at two different levels.

    1.     Haplogroup and Subclade.

    The major grouping is by Haplogroup, and Subclade within haplogroup.  People in different haplogroups or subclades cannot be closely related. Men in different major groups are unlikely to have a most recent common ancestor (MRCA) within the last 10,000 years (for major haplogroups) or within 5,000 years or so for subclades within a haplogroup.

    If you share a haplogroup or subclade with a person of interest, it is likely that your Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) lived within the last 5,000 years or so.

    Results for testers for whom we have not yet found a match, or have too few markers tested to allow reliable matching, will be placed in one of the Unassigned groups.

    Haplogroups are determined by a small number of mutations on the Y chromosome, known as Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNPs), or Unique Event Polymorphisms (UEPs). Haplogroups in green have been confirmed by SNP testing.  Haplogroups in red have been predicted by Family Tree DNA based on the individual's STR results and can be confirmed by a Deep Clade SNP test.

    2.     Closely related group.

    To share an MRCA within recorded history, FTDNA calculates that you need a match within the following degrees of genetic distance (GD), i.e. the number of marker mismatches:

    12 markers tested:  0,1

    25 markers tested: 0, 1, 2

    37 markers tested: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4

    67 markers tested: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

    The closer the match, the closer the relationship is likely to be – more or less!  This is only a rough guide, and other information should be factored into the match wherever possible.

     “Within recorded history” is a very loose term. For Scotland, the ancestral home for many of the Douglases, this would be since about 1100AD.

    I'm working on a description of the Haplogroups Subclades and Groups as existing at present, and I'll put this in the Results Section here (different from Y-Re

    Mar 1, 2011

  • William Douglas

    I have been informed of two new Family Tree DNA research projects that I would like you to consider joining. One is specific to R1a1 members and the other is specific to clan / family members of Noble bloodlines and therefore would include  R1b Morton Lines,  R1a1 Drumlanrig / Queensberry lines and  I lines.

    The R1a1 and sub clades project can be found at

    http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1a/default.aspx

    The other project being the Central-European Nobility DNA Project can be found at

    http://www.familytreedna.com/public/DNA-stia/default.aspx

    In both instances you can join by clicking the "Join Request" tab

    The project admins of both these projects look forward to your participation.

    Aug 9, 2011

  • William Douglas

    There are exciting developments in the Yahoo DNA group which we should all be following: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/douglasDNA/messages

    May 29, 2013

  • Raymond Oliver

    As a new member feeling my way around the Douglas dna data I have added my data to the Douglas family database.    My preliminary conclusion is that there seems to be quite a close match between my I2b1 profile and that for the 1st Earl's.  It would appear there might have been a closer relationship somewhere far back between the Douglas clan and the Oliver vassals.  I can say far back because I have indications that my Oliver ancestors resided in the uplands of Staffordshire from the time of the earliest parish records (early 16th century).    I will continue to explore the data with great interest.

    Jun 10, 2013

  • Steve Douglas

    Good news, Ryan. We've been awaiting Marksberry info for a while now! Please let us know when you've got your results. 

    May 29, 2014

  • Steve Douglas

    If you haven't already, I'd like to invite you to join the Douglas DNA Yahoo group:

    https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/douglasDNA/

    May 29, 2014

  • William Douglas

    Understanding Y-Chromosome DNA Testing

    Bill Hough, a member of the Douglas DNA project, has published a helpful guide to DNA testing.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2sqogLL0rDuMW5oQ25ZVi16c3c/view

    Well, I hope you find it helpful!  It is still a mystery to me!

    May 18, 2015

  • William Douglas

    "Using Your DNA to Pinpoint Your Scottish Originhttp://www.scottishorigenes.com/"

    Jan 10, 2017

  • Cindy Dickinson

    How can I transfer my DNA to this site. 

    - If you click on settings, you can add your DNA details.  William

    Mar 1, 2017

  • James David Douglas

    It might be useful if members posted other DNA information such as any projects they are members of, test kit numbers, YSearch numbers, Mitosearch numbers and Gedmatch numbers if they are available.

    Mar 2, 2017

  • Cindy Dickinson

    I belong to a DNA circle on ancestry. Anyone else?

    Mar 3, 2017

  • James David Douglas

    I belong to the Douglas DNA project on Familytree DNA. I also have my tree and DNA information posted on Wikitree. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Douglass-990

    auDNA info posted on Gedmatch as is Gedcom.

    My Gedmatch ID is T824570,
    My kit # 442244 Familytree DNA
    YSearch ID COPCF

    Mar 3, 2017

  • William Douglas

    Douglas DNA tree

    http://douglashistory.ning.com/photo/douglas-ydna-tree

    Jan 11, 2018

  • Gilbert Franklin Douglas III

    Greetings Douglases.... 

    Several years ago I submitted a swab for the Ancestry.com DNA which upon receipt of the results I had results transferred to FTDNA.  Subsequently I did a yDNA with FTDNA ... first 37, then 65 and now I am awaiting the data for the 111.  My kit# is B49476 yDNA haploid is R-M198.  Which seems to tell me that I have connections to Drumlanrig and Queensbury lines.  

    Genealogically I am stuck only as far back as a Samuel Douglas 1824-1888 in Clarke Cty, MS

    My DNA seems to indicate that I am connected to a Frederick Douglass in Florida, who is a son of an Alexander Douglas..

    HELP!!  I am truly a neophyte!!

    Gilbert F. Douglas, III

    Feb 19, 2018