The following mesage has just been published on the Douglas DNA website:

Since 26 January 2011, Y-DNA results in the Douglas Project have been grouped at two different levels.

1.     Haplogroup and Subclade.

The major grouping is by Haplogroup, and Subclade within haplogroup.  People in different haplogroups or subclades cannot be closely related. Men in different major groups are unlikely to have a most recent common ancestor (MRCA) within the last 10,000 years (for major haplogroups) or within 5,000 years or so for subclades within a haplogroup.

If you share a haplogroup or subclade with a person of interest, it is likely that your Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) lived within the last 5,000 years or so.

Results for testers for whom we have not yet found a match, or have too few markers tested to allow reliable matching, will be placed in one of the Unassigned groups.

Haplogroups are determined by a small number of mutations on the Y chromosome, known as Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNPs), or Unique Event Polymorphisms (UEPs). Haplogroups in green have been confirmed by SNP testing.  Haplogroups in red have been predicted by Family Tree DNA based on the individual's STR results and can be confirmed by a Deep Clade SNP test.

2.     Closely related group.

To share an MRCA within recorded history, FTDNA calculates that you need a match within the following degrees of genetic distance (GD), i.e. the number of marker mismatches:

12 markers tested:  0,1

25 markers tested: 0, 1, 2

37 markers tested: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4

67 markers tested: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

The closer the match, the closer the relationship is likely to be – more or less!  This is only a rough guide, and other information should be factored into the match wherever possible.

 “Within recorded history” is a very loose term. For Scotland, the ancestral home for many of the Douglases, this would be since about 1100AD.

I'm working on a description of the Haplogroups Subclades and Groups as existing at present, and I'll put this in the Results Section here (different from Y-Re

There are exciting developments in the Yahoo DNA group which we should all be following: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/douglasDNA/messages

As a new member feeling my way around the Douglas dna data I have added my data to the Douglas family database.    My preliminary conclusion is that there seems to be quite a close match between my I2b1 profile and that for the 1st Earl's.  It would appear there might have been a closer relationship somewhere far back between the Douglas clan and the Oliver vassals.  I can say far back because I have indications that my Oliver ancestors resided in the uplands of Staffordshire from the time of the earliest parish records (early 16th century).    I will continue to explore the data with great interest.

Good news, Ryan. We've been awaiting Marksberry info for a while now! Please let us know when you've got your results. 

If you haven't already, I'd like to invite you to join the Douglas DNA Yahoo group:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/douglasDNA/

Understanding Y-Chromosome DNA Testing

Bill Hough, a member of the Douglas DNA project, has published a helpful guide to DNA testing.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2sqogLL0rDuMW5oQ25ZVi16c3c/view

Well, I hope you find it helpful!  It is still a mystery to me!

"Using Your DNA to Pinpoint Your Scottish Originhttp://www.scottishorigenes.com/"

How can I transfer my DNA to this site. 

- If you click on settings, you can add your DNA details.  William

I belong to a DNA circle on ancestry. Anyone else?

Douglas DNA tree

http://douglashistory.ning.com/photo/douglas-ydna-tree

Greetings Douglases.... 

Several years ago I submitted a swab for the Ancestry.com DNA which upon receipt of the results I had results transferred to FTDNA.  Subsequently I did a yDNA with FTDNA ... first 37, then 65 and now I am awaiting the data for the 111.  My kit# is B49476 yDNA haploid is R-M198.  Which seems to tell me that I have connections to Drumlanrig and Queensbury lines.  

Genealogically I am stuck only as far back as a Samuel Douglas 1824-1888 in Clarke Cty, MS

My DNA seems to indicate that I am connected to a Frederick Douglass in Florida, who is a son of an Alexander Douglas..

HELP!!  I am truly a neophyte!!

Gilbert F. Douglas, III

300 up!

The Douglas DNA project database now has 300 entries!

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I have just had a look and there are more than 600 in December 2024.

I have as my furthest back James Douglas(s) b abt 1733-5,  father was an unknown John Douglas. Family reported that we are Scottish Ancestry, but no firm information 

My Y DNA results are in.

i am haplogoup R-M269

I have a small number of Douglas matches ,  one seem to offer immediate breakthrough, but work to be done here 

FYI on 31 Dec 2018, I did a cheek swab of my father's first cousin, Dan E. Douglas (he died a couple months later!!!)

His is also RM198, just like mine...

Gilbert Douglas III

Did you know...

That if you post your haplogoup in the search box, you will find others who match yours?

And you can get networking!

William

Scotland’s genetic landscape echoes Dark Age populations - first comprehensive genetic map

https://www.historyscotland.com/articles/scottish-history/scotlands...

The Douglas and variants DNA project and The Robert William Glode Douglas DNA project have for many years been active in Yahoo Groups.
However, Yahoo has now closed its file hosting service, and so a rescue operation was mounted to download all the files, and save them.
A new file hosting service is now available within the Douglas Archives for these two groups. Much work has still to be done as the downloaded files came without the explanatory links and, in many cases, the files are un-named.
All Yahoo users are requested to review their files and let me know of any details that will make them useful. If anyone can recognise any of the photographs and put names to them, please get in touch.
Not all sections are complete so updating will continue into the New Year.

www.douglashistory.co.uk/douglasdna 

I have uploaded files relevant to the BigY test, and to William Douglas, b1610 in the Douglas DNA section of the Archives. See here>>> and look for items 41 and 42.

I am looking for help how best to determine if modern-day males with the surname Kidston are closely related to the Clan Douglas linage using Y-DNA markers.     

My wife, Elizabeth, is a Kidston and her father can trace his Scottish family surname back in time to a family of Kidston that originated in the parish of Logie in the early 1500s. The original Kidston family graves are located at the old Logie Kirk graveyard, rather amazing to view the grave of an 11th great grandfather.  

There is a suggestion by a Kidston family historian that this ancient Kidston family has origin from a young Douglas male who lived near Logie in early 1500s. The suggestion being that he was starting a family and took the long inactive surname Kidston (lost to birth and death records in Scotland for ~260 years) to hide their Douglas identify, after the 8th Earl of Douglas was killed at Stirling Castle in 1451, which led to some Douglas family members being arrested during the 1451 to 1500 time period.  

If this story has any truth to it, modern day Kidston males should be genetically very similar to Douglas males using Y-DNA test methods, more so than with males of other Scottish surnames.  

My question is, what would be the best Y-DNA genetic test to use to determine a possible close genetic link between modern-day males of the Kidston and Douglas families?  Would it be required that the newer Big Y-DNA test be used, or would the methods using 111 Y-STR loci be sufficient?  We are aware of a few Kidston males that could be tested and want to direct them toward the appropriate Y-DNA test to use.  

Any advice greatly appreciated.