Which Douglas line are you researching? Dates and places help making connections.
All areas of Douglas history and genealogy are of interest to me.
I am keen to track back family lines that are considered 'brick walls', and hope to be able to do this through the networking opportunities that arise through media such as this.
New to this page, and trying to get my information altogether to upload. Thanks for help though, I will put up within the next week hopefully. Good luck to you also.
Hello. Thanks very much for the welcome. I've only just recently discovered this family line and I am very excited to have done so because so far as my family goes I've seen nothing but Germans! :) Yes, so, William, b. 1610, is my 10th great-grandfather. His granddaughter, Elizabeth, b. 1668, married into another well known New London, CT clan--the Dart(e) family. Much has been published on this family so I'm very happily surprised to see that's the case for the Douglas line as well. I'm very much looking forward to exploring these message threads.
Hello again. I forgot to ask. To which Douglas family does William, b. 1610, belong to? Douglas of ..... (where)? I tried to find it myself but wasn't successful.
Thank you William for your feedback. The Battle of Otterburn video did take a lot of time to research and produce. It will depend on the number of requests from people as to what Video clip will be considered next.
It was the Black Douglas (wasn't he sir James Douglas also?) I was referring to that he / we are descended from (see the pagefrom the book I've uploaded late last night titled chapter V John Stuart Rust 1855 , then next page is the reference.
John Rust was a registra of Birth, Deaths and marriages and was in council etc.
Well, that depends on who "they" are. If "they" are my fellow hunters, yes, absolutely I hope they see me coming. If "they" are elk or deer, I suppose I'd rather they not see me. If "they" are bear, I hope we see each other coming!
Hi William, it is quite possible that John was a brother to William as according to the Archives in Prince Edward Island William left home with 6 other brothers who settled in Nova Scotia,(possibly Cape Breton area) though I have not found any other Douglases aboard the Lovely Nelly, they possibly came on another boat. I have not been able to give William parents though possible his father was James. This is my husband's maternal line so was able to come forward with no problem at all or backward. if anyone can help me get back from William it would be very much appreciated as due to distance (appears to be a big puddle between here and there) I have to rely on the internet.
I am just starting to find out where my Douglas family comes from. I have read some about the Douglas Clan origins and find it extremely interesting. The only thing I know about my family is that my great grandfather was Fredrick Horace Douglas and my great grandmother was Cheta Douglas. They once owned a grocery store in about 1900 in Miami, Florida , sold it and moved to a small farm in High Springs, Florida. I haven't been able to find out any other family history yet.
The only info I have is that Alexander Douglas married Christian Forbes in Cromarty in 1806. They had 2 sons, Joseph, my great great grandfather who was born in Cousland, Midlothian in 1811, and John born 1809. What is a macer? Alexander Douglas is such a common name in these parts so finding more about him has drawn a blank.
re Frances Douglas and James Templeton McGarrah (my 5x grandparents). There is a birth of James Templeton McGarrah to James and Frances in 1813 in Midlothian.This is before the many daughters were produced in Middlesex. Could these have been the same people. Any ideas please?
Actually am using logic on this one - hopefully I am right. All the girls born to James and Frances Templeton McGarrah in Brentford, Middx and listed at Wesleyan Ministry in London are listed as being to James and Frances Templeton. Similarly all the daughters are listed on censuses as Templeton except Ruth BUT on birth certificate for Phoebe(only one born after compulsory registration in 1837), her death certificate, marriage certificate for younger Frances born 1818 and married 1856, and death certificates for older Frances and for James, name is given as Templeton McGarrah. So the only mention of a James and Frances Templeton outside of Brentford is IGI batch C116974 dated 22.9.1813 in Peniuik, Midlothian. Given that , according to other posts, there were Douglas in this area, maybe there is someone out there who can link these. I found the Douglas name for Frances' maiden name on Phoebe's birth certificate.
Im seeking to know more family history from my great grandmother. The only info I have is this:
Harry Bernard Drazkowski and Helen F. Thompson were married before 1919 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. She was an American war bride, Harry having been stationed in the Scottish airdrome of Drem, which was near her home. Helen F. Thompson was born on 21 Jun 1893 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. She immigrated on 26 Aug 1919. She died on 16 Mar 1990 at the age of 96 in Winona, Winona co, MN. Helen was buried in St. Mary's cemetery, Winona, Winona co, MN. She had Social Security Number 543-24-6575.
Winona County, Minnesota Census, 1920
Town: Winona City Enum. District: 209
Page No.: 12A Fam. No.: 241
Surname: Droszkowski Drazkowski Given Names: Helen
Yes this is one and the same John Black Douglas - he was married to Georgiana (also known as Georgina) Bennett in St Pancreas church london. they then immigrated to NSW where my Great Grandfather Buchanan Douglas was born, He had 2 sons one of which is Albert Douglas my Grandfather who then had 6 sons of which my Father Sidney Douglas is the eldest and I am the eldest of the next generation. I think coming from the UK to Maitland area in NSW in 1851 must have been like going to the moon.
Hi William, Yes that is the same person, he stole a blanket off the community line and a spoon from a farmhouse, he was found in the home of a shepherd, whereby he was taken to the gaol and the family tried to help him escape the reports have him as being extremely violent toward the police when they took him his food. he was sent to Inverness where he was transported for 7 years to Australia. He had separated from his wife Euphemia prior to this event. my initial search was to see whether John Black Douglas ever acknowledged his convict father, but it seems that he did as my GGrandfather Buchanan was born in the same area where Hugh had been sent as a convict. and Hugh was mentioned on the ships records for John Black Douglas as a farmer. the convict records state that Hugh was a House Servant.
Hi William, yes this is our Hugh. I think he fell on hard times or else he was up to no good already, and his wife Euphemia separated from him, He went to his relatives on the Isle of Skye by walking/getting lifts from passing carts. anyway He was arrested there for stealing a blanket of the community line and a spoon from a farmhouse, He had been to visit a relative earlier that day so something musn't have worked in his favour. he was found in the home of a Shepherd, I like to think he just borrowed the blanket for warmth and the spoon for his porridge, after he was arrested the family tried to help him escape, and he was violent to the guards even though he was 4 feet 9 inches tall according to his ticket of leave papers. So yes 7 years in Australia (it must have been horrendous) I would like to know what happened to Euphemia back in Glasgow she had been left to raise her children alone. Hugh was able to read and write. and was classed as a household servant on the convict log.
My William Douglas isn't very far back. He was the son of William Douglas (1610-1682) and Ann Mattle. I have found several genealogies, some possible, some far fetched but nothing completely acceptable. However, this is what makes the search interesting. I am old and they say doing interesting things, especially puzzles, is good for the brain. This Douglas line is a new puzzle to me and I have plenty of time on my hands, so I can search to my heart's content. I hope I'll be able to solve at least some of the puzzle.
I have a few possibilities, but have hit several brick walls. I do love doing this, alot of fun. I currently live in England and would like to have found a connection to Scotland before I go back to the US in Aug 2013. Willing to share with anyone. I appreciate the quick response. Thanks. Steven Douglas
William,
In the states DVM stands for Doctor of Veterinary Medicine. He was the first licenced vet in Louisiana. He was from Illinois. The next family get together is the last Thursday of this month, Thanksgiving, and I'll have more information then.
My wife is pregnant with our first boy, due in March, and I'm amassing info to trace our legacy.
Thank you,
Frank Douglass
My George Douglas /Helen Spavin had son William born 13/08/1775 in Cockpen. He married Janet Clapperton 31/01/1880. She was born 06/10/1780 in Cockpen. They had 12 children. Janets parents were James Clapperton born 1756who married Mary Boston (born17/02/1754) 21/12/1776.
George Douglas and Helen Spavin both originate from Temple near Edinburgh so I imagine they married there. Their 12 children were born in Cockpen, Newbattle and Edinburgh areas
William, thank you for the follow up. Col. Douglas sounds familiar and I'm looking through one of the Douglas history volumes my great aunt Ruth Eleanor Douglas worked on for many years. It contains a lot of information about the Virginia Douglases so perhaps I'll find more connections here in the forum. I'm looking forward (no pun intended) to the research.
Thanks William. From LDS film of Borthwick I have birth of George Douglas b 1742 Borthwick to George Douglas b c 1715, and Christian Watson (married 1738 Borthwick). Have been trying to identify where George b c 1715 came from. Records a bit thin around that time. Some unsubstantiated connections for George on the internet. I was hoping you may have had some confimed parents for him.
Hi William - In your comments to Ethel Douglas you have mentioned the family of William Douglas b 1668 Cockpen and Grishild McKeand. These are descendents of the Black Douglas as I understand it. On a website, where their children are listed, there is a George b 1711 in Cockpen.
The IGI lists George b 1711 in Cockpen as being the child of William Douglas and Janet Witherspoon - and lists all their children.
Their children were being born at the same time as the children of William and Grishild McKeand. I wondered if the information you have on that couple has a resource. Thanks - Julie
Thanks for all that information William - much appreciated. I have some work ahead of me as there is confusion over whose children were whose from the various sources available. George b 1742 had a connection to the Lord President of Scotland, Robert Dundas. Julie
George Douglas b c 1711 appears to be child of William Douglas and Janet Witherspoon. Descendants of George and Christian Watson, m Borthwick 1738, have the middle name Witherspoon. Info passed on from Who Do You..... - Margaret Douglas b 1790 Cockpen was g granddaughter of George and Christian. Julie
Baptism entry Cockpen 4 May 1711, George Duglass, lawful son to William Duglass and Janet Witherspoon in Dalhousie, baptised 4th May, wittness John Witherspoon and James O'Tyrie. Can't find marriage for William and Janet. Don't know where William comes from.
There are a couple of websites plus entries in the Pedigree section of Familysearch.org which say that the father of William Duglass who married Janet Witherspoon was William Douglas b 1649 and mother Agnes Wilson m c 1667. That William Douglas 1649 was the son of James Douglas and Agnes Rome. He married 1st Isabel Elizabeth Kennedy 1665. Some people are listing children to Isabel Kennedy after 1667 when he married Agnes Wilson. Isabel Kennedy also appears to have had a son William b 1666 who married Grishild McKean. I am confused. Can you shed any light on this?
Thanks for your reply William. Now I am really confused. Which William is descended from Gilbert Douglas? On the IGI there is a Gilbert Douglase b 1613 to William Douglas and Agnes Wilson in South Leigh. Hummm, they seemed to have got around!
Luckily, I have some basic information for WIlliam Douglas. Not his parents, unfortunately, but at least his birth date and location as well as marriage. Here it is:
William Douglas
Born: 19 July 1856 in Cooly, Moville Upper, Donegal
married: 12 June 1888 in Moville, Upper Moville, Co Donegal
died: 18 February 1945 in Toronto
Spouse: Margaret Jane Johnston
Born: 12 August 1865 in Moville, Donegal
Died: 23 October 1914 in Toronto
The main problem is that I have no idea who any of their parents were, and so cannot continue to trace the line.
Thank you so much for your help! I've been searching endlessly on my own and thought I'd turn to someone else for a change!
I don't know where I fit in, which is why I joined - I've been using ancestry.co.uk to trace my family tree, but have only got as far back as my great grandparents on my father's side. I know my grandad (Arthur William John Douglas, b.1927) is from Sunderland, and his mother was called Ellen Knight and his father William Douglass (or Douglas - he changed the spelling, I don't know when) but that's as far as I've got. So hopefully I will find something here to get a bit further back!
Now that's all very interesting, it certainly gives a new direction to go in as I didn't have a clue where to look. I will mention it to my grandad and see if anything jogs his memory - if not, it's still far more to look at than I had before. Thank you for that.
Cynthia Lee Douglass
Hi William,
I live in Temeula, Ca now. I did live in Federal Way Wa but I never lived in Silverdale.
Thank you for sending me an e-mail...
Cynthia
Apr 14, 2011
Sandra Marie (Duncan) Douglas
Apr 18, 2011
Anne Douglass
Hi William,
This has been a difficult search for the elusive William Douglass in my tree. I'm
going to Scotland in the summer, and it would be so nice to have more info. I
have my nephew's DNA but I'm unsure how to use it to track the right family
tree. Thanks for emailing. Anne
Apr 19, 2011
Anne Douglass
Thanks for the suggestion! Our DNA record is attached to Ancestry.com and
I'm not sure how to move it to the Douglas archives. I think we may need more
tests too. Thank you William for your help. Anne
Apr 21, 2011
Anne Douglass
Thank you William for this information. I'm going to work on it today. In your
opinion, how important is the one s or two ss on the name? That is, in tracing
the family through the generations?
Anne
Apr 25, 2011
Cynthia Lee Douglass
May 1, 2011
Kirsten Schwab-Norwood
May 5, 2011
Kirsten Schwab-Norwood
Hello again. I forgot to ask. To which Douglas family does William, b. 1610, belong to? Douglas of ..... (where)? I tried to find it myself but wasn't successful.
Thanks, Kirsten
May 5, 2011
Andrew Douglas
GDay William!
I've sent you a message in to your mailbox yesterday asking if you can provide us with some assistance. :)
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind Regards
Andrew
May 9, 2011
Andrew Douglas
Hi William
No, I didn't get it mate. I checked and re-checked and it seems to have been sucked into the e-vortex.
I'll send you a message through here first and hopefully you'll get it ok.
Andrew
May 9, 2011
Stephen Hatcher
Thank you William for your feedback. The Battle of Otterburn video did take a lot of time to research and produce. It will depend on the number of requests from people as to what Video clip will be considered next.
Regards Aye,
Stephen
May 14, 2011
Mindy porter
Levi Douglass was born 1782 Morris New Jersey, US and died 1852 Ontario Canada
May 16, 2011
david andrew james drysdale
yes thats me on the pipes my pride and joy
Jun 7, 2011
Jackie Stoddard
thanks for this input William :-)
It was the Black Douglas (wasn't he sir James Douglas also?) I was referring to that he / we are descended from (see the pagefrom the book I've uploaded late last night titled chapter V John Stuart Rust 1855 , then next page is the reference.
John Rust was a registra of Birth, Deaths and marriages and was in council etc.
Jun 18, 2011
Alison Louise Cudworth
Jul 1, 2011
James Harrison Douglas
Jul 14, 2011
john alfred douglas
My family tree start around Annan my part of it one of them went to the IOM { Robert Douglas 1862 - 1935 wife Margaret Clarke 1862-1915 ??? }
And from there some went to Canada.
In 1947 { approx } went to live in a small village in Yorkshire { Cowling }
Now wot do i do with the tree i have got.
there is 4 people on this part of the tree with no info
John Douglas
Albert Douglas
William Douglas wife Ethel Cain 1898-1978
Alfred Douglas 1899-1918 could have been killed 1st WW
It was done by Peter Mitchell Ross in 1983 from Carlisle
John Douglas
Jul 20, 2011
Todd Douglas
Todd
Jul 29, 2011
Darlene MacDonald
Jul 29, 2011
Michael Dustin Douglas
Howdy William,
I am just starting to find out where my Douglas family comes from. I have read some about the Douglas Clan origins and find it extremely interesting. The only thing I know about my family is that my great grandfather was Fredrick Horace Douglas and my great grandmother was Cheta Douglas. They once owned a grocery store in about 1900 in Miami, Florida , sold it and moved to a small farm in High Springs, Florida. I haven't been able to find out any other family history yet.
Jul 29, 2011
Norman Thomson Douglas
Aug 15, 2011
Linda French
Aug 18, 2011
Linda French
Actually am using logic on this one - hopefully I am right. All the girls born to James and Frances Templeton McGarrah in Brentford, Middx and listed at Wesleyan Ministry in London are listed as being to James and Frances Templeton. Similarly all the daughters are listed on censuses as Templeton except Ruth BUT on birth certificate for Phoebe(only one born after compulsory registration in 1837), her death certificate, marriage certificate for younger Frances born 1818 and married 1856, and death certificates for older Frances and for James, name is given as Templeton McGarrah. So the only mention of a James and Frances Templeton outside of Brentford is IGI batch C116974 dated 22.9.1813 in Peniuik, Midlothian. Given that , according to other posts, there were Douglas in this area, maybe there is someone out there who can link these. I found the Douglas name for Frances' maiden name on Phoebe's birth certificate.
Aug 24, 2011
Kathleen Marylin Maytum
Harry Bernard Drazkowski and Helen F. Thompson were married before 1919 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. She was an American war bride, Harry having been stationed in the Scottish airdrome of Drem, which was near her home. Helen F. Thompson was born on 21 Jun 1893 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. She immigrated on 26 Aug 1919. She died on 16 Mar 1990 at the age of 96 in Winona, Winona co, MN. Helen was buried in St. Mary's cemetery, Winona, Winona co, MN. She had Social Security Number 543-24-6575.
Winona County, Minnesota Census, 1920
Town: Winona City Enum. District: 209
Page No.: 12A Fam. No.: 241
Surname: Droszkowski Drazkowski Given Names: Helen
Relation: W Sex: F
Color or Race: W Age: 26
Year of Imm.: 1919 Birth Place: Scotland
Father's Birth Place: Scotland Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
DRAZKOWSKI, HELEN THOMPSON
CertID# 1990-MN-008650
Date of Birth: 06/21/1893
Place of Birth: OUT OF STATE
Mother Maiden Name: DOUGLAS
Date of Death: 03/16/1990
County of Death: WINONA
ToDo: Scottish marriage records for Thompson/Douglas
my family that would know has passed away Jerome and Dennis. I hope maybe someone can help me track my great grandmother. Thank you
Sep 2, 2011
Kim Douglas-Reid
Hi,
Yes this is one and the same John Black Douglas - he was married to Georgiana (also known as Georgina) Bennett in St Pancreas church london. they then immigrated to NSW where my Great Grandfather Buchanan Douglas was born, He had 2 sons one of which is Albert Douglas my Grandfather who then had 6 sons of which my Father Sidney Douglas is the eldest and I am the eldest of the next generation. I think coming from the UK to Maitland area in NSW in 1851 must have been like going to the moon.
Sep 11, 2011
Paul Douglas
Thank you very much William still checking all the info.
Paul.
Sep 11, 2011
Kim Douglas-Reid
Sep 17, 2011
Kim Douglas-Reid
Sep 17, 2011
garry russell peake
Sep 20, 2011
garry russell peake
Sep 20, 2011
Priscilla Davis
Sep 24, 2011
Steven K. Douglas
Thanks William.
I have a few possibilities, but have hit several brick walls. I do love doing this, alot of fun. I currently live in England and would like to have found a connection to Scotland before I go back to the US in Aug 2013. Willing to share with anyone. I appreciate the quick response. Thanks. Steven Douglas
Nov 7, 2011
Frank Joseph Douglass IIII
In the states DVM stands for Doctor of Veterinary Medicine. He was the first licenced vet in Louisiana. He was from Illinois. The next family get together is the last Thursday of this month, Thanksgiving, and I'll have more information then.
My wife is pregnant with our first boy, due in March, and I'm amassing info to trace our legacy.
Thank you,
Frank Douglass
Nov 13, 2011
Ethel Douglas
Hi William,
My George Douglas /Helen Spavin had son William born 13/08/1775 in Cockpen. He married Janet Clapperton 31/01/1880. She was born 06/10/1780 in Cockpen. They had 12 children. Janets parents were James Clapperton born 1756who married Mary Boston (born17/02/1754) 21/12/1776.
Try as I may I can't get further back
Nov 15, 2011
Ethel Douglas
George Douglas and Helen Spavin both originate from Temple near Edinburgh so I imagine they married there. Their 12 children were born in Cockpen, Newbattle and Edinburgh areas
Nov 15, 2011
Ethel Douglas
Thanks William, I will have a look at my tree and check my details. From memory what you say seems familar to me. Your help is much appreciated, Ethel
Nov 20, 2011
David Douglas Strohman
William, thank you for the follow up. Col. Douglas sounds familiar and I'm looking through one of the Douglas history volumes my great aunt Ruth Eleanor Douglas worked on for many years. It contains a lot of information about the Virginia Douglases so perhaps I'll find more connections here in the forum. I'm looking forward (no pun intended) to the research.
Nov 30, 2011
julie bryce
Thanks William. From LDS film of Borthwick I have birth of George Douglas b 1742 Borthwick to George Douglas b c 1715, and Christian Watson (married 1738 Borthwick). Have been trying to identify where George b c 1715 came from. Records a bit thin around that time. Some unsubstantiated connections for George on the internet. I was hoping you may have had some confimed parents for him.
Dec 11, 2011
julie bryce
Hi William - In your comments to Ethel Douglas you have mentioned the family of William Douglas b 1668 Cockpen and Grishild McKeand. These are descendents of the Black Douglas as I understand it. On a website, where their children are listed, there is a George b 1711 in Cockpen.
The IGI lists George b 1711 in Cockpen as being the child of William Douglas and Janet Witherspoon - and lists all their children.
Their children were being born at the same time as the children of William and Grishild McKeand. I wondered if the information you have on that couple has a resource. Thanks - Julie
Dec 12, 2011
julie bryce
Thanks for all that information William - much appreciated. I have some work ahead of me as there is confusion over whose children were whose from the various sources available. George b 1742 had a connection to the Lord President of Scotland, Robert Dundas. Julie
Dec 13, 2011
Andrew Douglas
William! The stones have arrived! Thank you so so much! :)
I haven't been home for the past two weeks but I'll get onto refunding you just as soon as I can.
This is very exciting. Thank you again William. Without your help the CDAA project would not have been possible. :)
Dec 14, 2011
julie bryce
George Douglas b c 1711 appears to be child of William Douglas and Janet Witherspoon. Descendants of George and Christian Watson, m Borthwick 1738, have the middle name Witherspoon. Info passed on from Who Do You..... - Margaret Douglas b 1790 Cockpen was g granddaughter of George and Christian. Julie
Dec 15, 2011
julie bryce
Baptism entry Cockpen 4 May 1711, George Duglass, lawful son to William Duglass and Janet Witherspoon in Dalhousie, baptised 4th May, wittness John Witherspoon and James O'Tyrie. Can't find marriage for William and Janet. Don't know where William comes from.
Dec 15, 2011
julie bryce
There are a couple of websites plus entries in the Pedigree section of Familysearch.org which say that the father of William Duglass who married Janet Witherspoon was William Douglas b 1649 and mother Agnes Wilson m c 1667. That William Douglas 1649 was the son of James Douglas and Agnes Rome. He married 1st Isabel Elizabeth Kennedy 1665. Some people are listing children to Isabel Kennedy after 1667 when he married Agnes Wilson. Isabel Kennedy also appears to have had a son William b 1666 who married Grishild McKean. I am confused. Can you shed any light on this?
Dec 16, 2011
julie bryce
Yes, thanks William. She was their great granddaughter. Have you seen my entries for today?
Dec 16, 2011
julie bryce
Thanks for your reply William. Now I am really confused. Which William is descended from Gilbert Douglas? On the IGI there is a Gilbert Douglase b 1613 to William Douglas and Agnes Wilson in South Leigh. Hummm, they seemed to have got around!
Dec 16, 2011
julie bryce
Good heavens! I suppose, with lack of records from so long ago, people make mistakes. Would really appreciate help with sorting this out.
Dec 16, 2011
Caitlin Douglas
Thanks for searching for me!
Luckily, I have some basic information for WIlliam Douglas. Not his parents, unfortunately, but at least his birth date and location as well as marriage. Here it is:
William Douglas
Born: 19 July 1856 in Cooly, Moville Upper, Donegal
married: 12 June 1888 in Moville, Upper Moville, Co Donegal
died: 18 February 1945 in Toronto
Spouse: Margaret Jane Johnston
Born: 12 August 1865 in Moville, Donegal
Died: 23 October 1914 in Toronto
The main problem is that I have no idea who any of their parents were, and so cannot continue to trace the line.
Thank you so much for your help! I've been searching endlessly on my own and thought I'd turn to someone else for a change!
Caitlin
Dec 18, 2011
Megan Douglas
I will do, thank you.
I don't know where I fit in, which is why I joined - I've been using ancestry.co.uk to trace my family tree, but have only got as far back as my great grandparents on my father's side. I know my grandad (Arthur William John Douglas, b.1927) is from Sunderland, and his mother was called Ellen Knight and his father William Douglass (or Douglas - he changed the spelling, I don't know when) but that's as far as I've got. So hopefully I will find something here to get a bit further back!
Jan 6, 2012
Megan Douglas
Now that's all very interesting, it certainly gives a new direction to go in as I didn't have a clue where to look. I will mention it to my grandad and see if anything jogs his memory - if not, it's still far more to look at than I had before. Thank you for that.
Jan 6, 2012