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Kathleen Marie Thurman
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Kathleen Marie Thurman left a comment for Donald Robert Douglas
"Thank you so much!! I find all of this very fascinating."
Jan 28
Donald Robert Douglas left a comment for Kathleen Marie Thurman
"Hi again, Kathleen, This is an interesting account of the founding of Newark which includes reference to our immigrant ancestor:https://archive.org/stream/historyofcityofn01urqu#page/n161/mode/2up/search/Dalglesh "They were all of them, as…"
Jan 26
Donald Robert Douglas left a comment for Kathleen Marie Thurman
"Hi again, Kathleen :) One of the things I found from studying genealogy it that it piqued my interest in the historical context generally. While I get my notes together on family history, you might do some googling of the Puritan group led by Rev.…"
Jan 25
Kathleen Marie Thurman left a comment for Donald Robert Douglas
"Hi Don!!   Thank you so much for reaching out to me. Early in your email, I wasn't sure if you knew it was me, Steve's sister but am glad you mentioned it later in the email. I have such fond memories of staying with your mom and dad,…"
Jan 22
Donald Robert Douglas left a comment for Kathleen Marie Thurman
"Hi Kathleen, I'm Don, one of four sons of William Eagles Douglas and Claire Putnam Douglas, first cousin of Doug Hockett. I do have a fair amount of information on the family, going back to 1660. I did the research a few years back, so will…"
Jan 21
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May 25, 2016
William Douglas left a comment for Kathleen Marie Thurman
"This is what I have:William Eagles Douglas (15 Sep 1912 California - 1 Feb 1989 Contra Costa, California, United States)Son of Martha Singler and Frank Johnson Douglas. Helen Martha Singler's parents were Rudolph Singler (born 1852 in Altdorf,B…"
Apr 19, 2016
Kathleen Marie Thurman left a comment for William Douglas
"Yes that is the same man, he did have a son William Eagles. Do you have a genealogy that includes Frank Johnson Douglas? Kathleen"
Apr 19, 2016
William Douglas left a comment for Kathleen Marie Thurman
"Welcome to our group, Kathleen. It would be helpful if you could put events, dates and places to Frank Johnson so that I, and others who may have him in their family, can ties in and share information. Did he have a son,  William Eagles…"
Apr 19, 2016
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Apr 19, 2016

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At 17:39 on January 26, 2019, Donald Robert Douglas said…

Hi again, Kathleen,

This is an interesting account of the founding of Newark which includes reference to our immigrant ancestor:https://archive.org/stream/historyofcityofn01urqu#page/n161/mode/2up/search/Dalglesh

"They were all of them, as their names clearly indicate, of English stock, with the exception of Dalglesh (believed to be a curious spelling of Douglass), a Scotchman, and Hans or Hauns Albers, a German or Dutchman, who came with the others from Milford, and who may either have been originally one of the Dutch settlers in and around New York or may have come under Puritan influence during the stay of the Pilgrims in the Netherlands, where there were many German refugees."

Cheers,
Don

At 11:45 on January 25, 2019, Donald Robert Douglas said…

Hi again, Kathleen :)

One of the things I found from studying genealogy it that it piqued my interest in the historical context generally. While I get my notes together on family history, you might do some googling of the Puritan group led by Rev. Abraham Pierson and, to a lesser extent that I'm not completely clear about, Henry Whitfield.

In addition to the historical record, given names give clues. William B. Douglass's father, Harvey Douglas, married Phebe Pierson Wade, and his younger brother was Harvey Whitfield Douglass. Harvey died not long after the younger Harvey's birth and Phebe apparently then married a man named Vreeland.

There was a naming tradition for some generations of using the maiden name of a female ancestor as a middle name. William B. Douglass's son Horace married Mary Elizabeth Eagles, which is how my father got his middle name. Both William and Horace had the middle name Bedford (which some records erroneously show as Bradford) and that derived from Patience Bedford. I think our (great-)grandfather Frank's middle name came from Thankful Johnson, but am not certain.

Cheers from Germany,
Don

At 17:44 on January 21, 2019, Donald Robert Douglas said…

Hi Kathleen, I'm Don, one of four sons of William Eagles Douglas and Claire Putnam Douglas, first cousin of Doug Hockett. I do have a fair amount of information on the family, going back to 1660. I did the research a few years back, so will have to dig some of it up again.
As to what's written here, my maternal grandfather, George Blalock Putnam was the son of George Abram (not Albert or Agustus) Putnam. He was the great-grandson of William Hook,  who settled in Contra Costa County in 1853 and was quite an interesting character, as you can read here if interested.
Helen Singler, my grandmother, was the second wife of Frank Johnson Douglas, who was a widower when they married. His first, Alice Gilmore, was the mother of Miriam (Douglas) Hockett and her older sister, Francebeth Douglas.

I have a couple of theories as to how our immigrant ancestor, Robert Daglesh or Douglas arrived in America. DNA tests have confirmed to me that Douglas is the correct name, by the way. Anyway, one theory is that he was a captive at the Battle of Dunbar, one of those who was force-marched to Newcastle, imprisoned there, and finally shipped off to America as an indentured servant. At about the time that the 7-year period of servitude would have ended, a group of Puritan pilgrims passed through the area of Massachusetts where the Scots had been sent. I don't know for sure that this is how it happened, but do know that in 1660 Robert Douglas had joined that group and married one of their daughters. Some of the pilgrims from this (Wethersfield) colony joined with some from the New Haven colony and together they went to found the New Ark colony, AKA Newark.

More later. I keep in touch with Steve if you want to contact me directly.

At 18:16 on April 19, 2016, William Douglas said…

This is what I have:
William Eagles Douglas (15 Sep 1912 California - 1 Feb 1989 Contra Costa, California, United States)
Son of Martha Singler and Frank Johnson Douglas. Helen Martha Singler's parents were Rudolph Singler (born 1852 in Altdorf,B aden-Württemberg,Germany) and Maria Magdalena Frey (born 1851 in Altdorf, Baden-Württemberg,Germany. They emigrated to New York in the 1860's.

William married Claire, daughter of George Blalock Putnam, who owned property in the Oak park area of Pleasant Hill. William and Claire raised their family there.

This may be the George Blalock Putnam (17 May 1888- 1 Dec 1953) who is the son of George Augustus Putnam. He had a daughter, Anita Claire, presumably the same Claire as above.

George Blalock Putnam Concord, Contra Costa County
He is 52 (in 1940) WA CA CA and a farm inspector-horticulturalist. His wife Frances Catherine Vessing is 54 CA and they have Robert Kemble 25 CA. He is a son of George Albert Putman and Grace Amy Brackett. He was born in Walla Walla, Washington May 7, 1888 and will die here Contra Costa County December 1, 1953. Frances was born in Alameda County January 21, 1886 and will die in Almeda January 24, 1964. This is a New York Dutch Putman family from Montgomery County New York.

So, nothing (yet) on the Douglas ancestry.

At 10:56 on April 19, 2016, William Douglas said…

Welcome to our group, Kathleen.

It would be helpful if you could put events, dates and places to Frank Johnson so that I, and others who may have him in their family, can ties in and share information.

Did he have a son,  William Eagles Douglas, or is that another man?

William

 
 
 

Making conections

The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.

Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.

Professions also help.

'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?


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