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"yes, this is the Samuel H Douglass born 1726 and I have in Albemarie Co. Virginia. He died 1755 in Chilhowee, Johnson Co., MO. I don't have any other information other than he married Mary ?Denison?/maybe Davis 2 Nov 1749 in New London,…"
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Stephen A. Douglas: The Political Apprenticeship, 1833-1843

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When newly elected Illinois State Representative Abraham Lincoln first saw his diminutive colleague Stephen A. Douglas, he sized him up as ""the least man I ever saw."" With the introduction of Douglas' first bill in 1834, Lincoln soon thought differently. The General Assembly not only passed the bill, it appointed the 21-year old Douglas State's Attorney of Illinois'…

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A curious scene was witnessed in the Court of Queen's Bench on Wednesday; the law playing with a prisoner as a cat with a mouse. Captain Douglas, who had been in custody on a charge of desertion, was brought up on a writ of habeas corpus. The facts of the case may be briefly recapitulated. Captain Douglas, has been in the service…

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On this day, 31st May, in 1916, The Battle of Jutland took place between the British Grand Fleet and the German High Seas Fleet in the North Sea, off the mainland of Denmark. Although it was the only major naval battle of World War I, it became the largest sea battle in naval warfare history in terms of the numbers of battleships and battlecruisers engaged, bringing together the two most powerful naval forces in existence at that…
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The arrest and release of David Douglas

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Lord Donegall, who had huge estates in Country Antrim, was very short of money and was forced to raise rents and impose fines to increase his capital. The tenants were unable to afford these prices and only the better off merchants in Belfast could raise the money.

The existing tenants responded by houghing or maiming the cattle of the new tenants. In December 1770 one of the perpetrators, David Douglas, was taken and imprisoned in the Belfast barracks. The tenants held a meeting in…

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MAN BLOWN TO ATOMS

In the Dynamite Explosion at Oliver’s Mills – Two Girls Hurt—Narrow Escapes

With a roar that could be heard for miles, the nitroglycerine building of the dynamite department of the Oliver Powder Mills at Laurel Run, on the Wilkes-Barre Mountain, [Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, USA] exploded yesterday [4th August 1904] afternoon at 1:25 o’clock, killing one man and injuring two girls. So great was the concussion that windows and doors in all parts of Wilkes-Barre…

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At 22:09 on June 21, 2016, Judy A Douglass said…

yes, this is the Samuel H Douglass born 1726 and I have in Albemarie Co. Virginia. He died 1755 in Chilhowee, Johnson Co., MO. I don't have any other information other than he married Mary ?Denison?/maybe Davis 2 Nov 1749 in New London, Campbell Co., Virginia. From this point on, I am confused as to his father and so on. I originally had Archibald, born 1695 in Scotland, but another shows a Capt. Richard Douglass, b. 1682 and died 26 Nov 1756 in Lancaster, PA. I sure would like to get to Scotland and confirm my Douglass lineage. Thank you Judy 

At 14:26 on June 19, 2016, Robert Nicol Baird said…

It was my sister who told me there was some useful Baird data that I might find interesting in the Douglas archives. 

Alas, that doesn't seem to be the case.

At 16:46 on June 17, 2016, James Izatt said…

William.

Just picking up on some more information on the Cockpen people re the information in the stub.

It does appear to be the case that there were two William Douglasses alive, married and having children at the same time. One partnership was with Grissell Mckeand in Penninghame and the other with Janet Witherspoon in Cockpen/Newbattle. It would be remarkable if he could have managed  both - based on the dates!  - details as per the spreadsheet. I am not sure if this still means that the Cockpen William was born in or is connected to Penninghame.

Book1.xlsx

At 18:46 on May 18, 2016, Laura Douglas said…
Thank you William for the Lithunia info..looking forward to seeing the film.(: Laura
At 12:47 on May 16, 2016, Laura Douglas said…
Hello and thank you William for the info from Wilks-Barre PA. I have been searching for so long trying to find information on my grandparents (John Douglas,Rose Hallick Douglas) and father. (George Anthony Douglas)Father was born in Wilks-Barre, Pa on Aug.12,1903 and died in Erie, Pa on Oct. 16, 1949 when I was only two. He had an older brother John born in 1901 also. My Mother never met his parents. He told her his Dad had passed from black lung. They were married in Erie in 1939. Brother John moved to New York City and married Ann and had two daughters. I found my parents marriage app. and it said both of my grandparents were born in Lithunia?? I am frustrated because I seem to be hitting a brick wall with no info that I can trace..I would be so grateful for any hints on where to look next.. Gratefully, Laura Douglas(:
At 3:27 on May 3, 2016, Jenny Biehl said…
Hi William,
Thank you. I'm searching for any details on my grandmother Dorothy Kathleen Douglas born 1900 died 1984. Married to Maurice Ian Keir Scott and lived in New Zealand. Dorothy's father Donald Avery Douglas.
Thanks
Jenny
At 17:27 on April 29, 2016, James Izatt said…

William.

Thanks.

Just back after the trip. I double checlked and the date of that marriage with a

Ker is 1692. The fact that all this was happening in Newbattle/Cockpen does gel with other bits of family history - geographically that is in that stretch of territory in an arc south of Edinburgh.  It may be that it proves impossible to find out more about John D but some other bit of evidence may be out there.

At 22:17 on April 27, 2016, Robert John Douglas said…

Thankyou William,

The F.A D. -April 1974 etc. Fairly sure he is not our branch.

The Frederick Austin and Elizabeth Ann nee Blake are my husbands (Robert John) parents.

They had four sons all born St Helens, Lancashire (Registered in Preston)

Francis Joseph D b28/10/38 d in NZ 21/4/2008; (my husband) Robert John, b 7/11/40; Austin Frederick D b 11/4/43-d in Kelowna BC 27/2/2008;John Christopher b 21/6/50-d in NZ 21/9/1997

That is my husbands (Robert John) father - Fred on the Banjo. (Probably posted by Anne Sherriff, a 2nd cousin,I think) We are looking for Freds older brother, Robert Francis Douglas

At 10:44 on April 25, 2016, James Izatt said…

Douglas

Thanks. No probs I am up north towards Pitlochry for the next few days and I will pick up when I return.

It does strike me that what is known is that there were two or three Douglas families in Cockpen/Newbattle at the time. It is certain that a William D did marry a Witherspoon and if his DOB and marriage is correct I can see where that gels with the backstory.  That however does not explain the Penninghame angle, if there is one. It may be as simple as two Williams and two marriages getting conflated. 

Also it does not necessarily shed any light on the  John Duglass who, I suspect may be my direct ancestor. The birth dates of Johns and Williams first children are circa 25 years apart so we are probably dealing with an earlier generation and there may be no actual connection to William D/Witherspoon.

You will probably know this already but it would be good to know when Cockpen records started as a separate parish. Given the history with the Kers I suspect that Newbattle is older and in fact there is a marriage between James of Queensberry and Mary Kerr in 1692 - again probably down to the Ker base at Newbattle 

I have updated the spreadsheet to include the other births.Ancestry%20Douglas.xlsx

 

At 20:52 on April 24, 2016, James Izatt said…

William

Just had a look at the update on the stub re Cockpen Douglas I would think that the key thing is sorting out the suggested relationship between William Douglas  Awith Grishild McK.

What is known is that a William Duglass and Janet Witherspoon  DID have six children between 1694 and 1706 (all Cockpen) and on that basis a birth date of 1668 and a marriage of 1694 does not seen unreasonable.

Clearly that could not reconcile with a Marriage to GMCK in Penninghame in 1693 with children being born from 1693 onwards.

The only provisional conclusion that I can draw is that there are two marriages there and that the GMK one is a bit of a red herring  

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