I am searching for the parents of my great grand parents. I am hoping that someone has a connection. Below are their dates of birth and death for my great grand parents. I have copies of newspaper obits that I found in a trunk that got me this far. lol My husband is a Beardsley and is documented to 1638 and to England. We believe we have mutual ties but then many of us do. Thank you for any help. Sherri
Hi There
I wonder if they are related.. now you have put the cat among the birds so to speak.. will give me something to do.. its awesome.
Thank you.
Karen
A couple of research statistics on Eunice Rattleaf or Ratliffe. Bruce Douglass's study of Eunice said that there is "no record of Rattleaf or Ratliffe in Middleborugh, Freetown or Swansea" which are close areas near Plymouth, Mass.
Where did she come from? They married in Middleborugh which is a city near Plymouth, Mass. Also from Bruce's study she is referred"perhaps an indian". We have all who researched John and Eunice Douglas heard about this undocumented info that she was referred as a princess of a famous indian chief called Massasoit, a chief of the Wampanoags Indian tribe. I took a autosomal DNA test from Ancestry and I didn't have any native American ancestry. I am connected to Elisha Douglas like Bruce is connected. Elisha was one of the sons to John Douglass. This Eunice Rattleaf or Ratliffe is a big a mystery as who was the family of John Douglas.
Thank you, William, for this information. I would like to further add to my family tree details pertaining to my extended family. Also, there are some misspelled names I'd like to correct for the record. So glad to hear from you.
Hi William, thanks for confirming you got them. Is there anyway we can link them to Juliana's page on your site? And to link WMAD's photo to his page? Just a thought! Regards, Ben
William, I think(!) I've up loaded 4 photos of Julia. Could you see if they are there and appropriately accessible? Looking down this page I see that Wayne Michael Douglas mentions seeing a portrait of Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas. I wonder if that is still around - I am sure that would be a real treasure. From what you put in your message I gather that my previous one disappeared so I will resend in the info in a few days - when I have time. All the best! Ben
Yes it would be great to take the story of John & Bridget Douglass of Yarm further back. The story goes that John, a Catholic, was originally from Scotland but was 'exiled after Stuart defeats', but so far we've never got to the bottom of this and it may be one of those 'family legends'! I'm currently looking at a possibility that John might have been a surgeon-apothecary in Durham, but it's a bit speculative.
Happy to see if I can help contribute to your amazing site, and likewise to help any others who wish to contact me who might have an interest in this branch of the family.
Definitely 'ss', by the way! All have ever since emphatically adopted that particular spelling - my brother, son, and several cousins also use it as a middle name...!
It’s a great pleasure to become acquainted with you.
I connect to Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas as follows:
Great-great grandfather: Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas
Great grandfather: Donald Avery Douglas
Grandfather: Horace Avery Douglas
Father: Edward Joseph Douglas
Me: Wayne Michael Douglas
I see the website only goes as far as my grandfather and I think it would be great if we can add further.
I went to the Douglas homestead, that Donald Avery Douglas established in Morrinsville, New Zealand, and I saw the portrait of Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas hanging on the wall in the dining room. I was actually adopted out as a baby and met the Douglas family (my biological family) for the first time when I was in my early twenties and was quite taken when I saw the portrait.
You may know that Donald Avery Douglas owned a cattle farm, and racehorses with 3 generations involved in the racing as follows:
Donald Avery Douglas: Owner
Roy Douglas: Trainer
Edward Douglas: Jockey
One of the main things that prompted me to join this site was because I have been invited to speak at the British House of Commons on March 2nd – only about 6 weeks away.
Do you know of any decedents from Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas living in England that I might be able to get in contact with?
Rev Percy Douglas 1900 Hooton, Little Sutton, Chester. South Africa Conciliation Committee March 1900. Rev Percy Douglas 1900-1925 Vicar of Great Sutton from 1900 to 1925. (Same as above?) Son of Rev Robert Douglas Rev Percy Douglas 1903 St. Paul's Church, Hooton, Cbeshire - conducted marriage ceremony
was indeed one of the people I was interested in learning about he was my great grandfather about to make a start on him this year after doing some research last year about my grandfather LT Percy Douglas R..F.C who is buried with him at Great Sutton Church
Wouldn't THAT be lovely? I found another document that reiterates the one you sent, with some additions. I'll attach it along below. My cousin, who died a couple of years ago was a lifetime member of Clan Douglas of North America, but I didn't get his info before he passed. The family up in Virginia has it in a basement somewhere. I just wanted to trace the genealogy back to Scotland, not go on a treasure hunt.;) I've never heard of the castle We-Wym-Wye mentioned either. That - and having trouble finding James Douglass of Virginia with any documents to support. Thanks for the welcome to the community - I'm looking forward to the search!
My younger brother (technically half brother) Jeremy Alexander Sholto Douglas recently introduced me to The Douglas Archives. Your web site is fascinating. Thank you for putting in the time and effort it must take to maintain it.
Robert Jennings Douglas was our grandfather. He was born on January 27th, 1895 in Green Hill (possibly spelled Greenhill), Sherborne (Dorset county), England. His parents were James Douglas (a solicitor) and Eleanora Douglas, formerly Lawson. My understanding is that James and Eleanora had 2 sons. Sholto was the first, and my grandfather, Robert was the second. Apparently Sholto and Robert were both sent offshore as young men to make their own way in life. My grandfather went to South Africa. Apparently his parents divorced, and his father James married again, and had one child, namely Hamish, who became a solicitor in Bournemouth.
Robert's first wife (my grandmother) was Marjorie May Wallis. They had 3 children. The first was my aunt Joan, who's full name and birth details I don't have, but could probably get from her offspring (my cousins). Joan died of cancer many years ago, but I am not sure how many. The second was a girl named Beryl, but she died at a very young age. The youngest child was my father, Sholto Henry Douglas, born on February 2nd, 1930 in Grahamstown, South Africa. My grandparents divorced when my father was a young lad. My grandfather was remarried to Thelma, who's details I know little of, but can get. They bore 3 children, Robert, Rodney and Sandra. I will get additional details of them, but it is our uncle Robert that has done some research on family history, which I intend to delve into at my first opportunity. My father died in December 2003 just a few weeks before what would have been his 74th birthday. His premature death was due to COPD brought about due to being a heavy smoker for many years.
My mother (first wife of Sholto Henry) was Josephine Anne Charlesworth, born November 4th, 1936 in Settle, Yorkshire. I have 3 siblings: Charles Henry Sholto born November 1st, 1957 in Grahamstown, South Afica. Sally Anne born July 18th, 1959 in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa. Lisa Jane born October 9th, 1962 in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa. I too, was born in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa. My father's second marriage was to Julie Anne Taylor. This is Jeremy's mother (my step-mother). I assume you already have his birth information. He was the second child of my father's second marriage. The first was my other brother Hamish John Sholto Douglas born August 1st, 1979. My brother, Charles Henry Sholto died in August of this year.
My wife (Wendy Jean Hodson, born November 2nd, 1965 in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa) and I relocated from South Africa to the USA in June 1992. We have 2 children: Amy Jean born April 8th, 1997 in St. Louis, Missouri, and Alec Sholto born October 25th, 2000 in Kansas City, Missouri. We currently live in the city of Overland Park in the state of Kansas, which is really a suburb of Kansas City.
That was my grandfather. He lived in Bonne Terre, MO. My father's name was Ernest Vetal Douglas. I wish I could track our line back to Scotland, but haven't been able to do that. I did live in Dunoon, Scotland for a couple of years and saw a portrait of Sir James Douglas hanging in Inverary Castle that looked almost exactly like one of my uncles. I remain fascinated with the history of the Douglas lines from medieval times on.
The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.
Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?
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I am searching for the parents of my great grand parents. I am hoping that someone has a connection. Below are their dates of birth and death for my great grand parents. I have copies of newspaper obits that I found in a trunk that got me this far. lol My husband is a Beardsley and is documented to 1638 and to England. We believe we have mutual ties but then many of us do. Thank you for any help. Sherri
Married William Douglas 12/14/1871
I have the birth notice: Jan 28 1779.
Ann Crighton, wife to John Douglas, was this day delivered of a son, baptised and named John.
I too doubt that we 'imported' a John D from Pensylvania, but there is that mention of a Capt JD, pos a sea captain?
Thanks heaps.. cheers Karen
Hi again.
Upon checking this is my family and I am delighted how do I contact the owner of the info.
cheers Karen
I wonder if they are related.. now you have put the cat among the birds so to speak.. will give me something to do.. its awesome.
Thank you.
Karen
A couple of research statistics on Eunice Rattleaf or Ratliffe. Bruce Douglass's study of Eunice said that there is "no record of Rattleaf or Ratliffe in Middleborugh, Freetown or Swansea" which are close areas near Plymouth, Mass.
Where did she come from? They married in Middleborugh which is a city near Plymouth, Mass. Also from Bruce's study she is referred"perhaps an indian". We have all who researched John and Eunice Douglas heard about this undocumented info that she was referred as a princess of a famous indian chief called Massasoit, a chief of the Wampanoags Indian tribe. I took a autosomal DNA test from Ancestry and I didn't have any native American ancestry. I am connected to Elisha Douglas like Bruce is connected. Elisha was one of the sons to John Douglass. This Eunice Rattleaf or Ratliffe is a big a mystery as who was the family of John Douglas.
Thank you, William, for this information. I would like to further add to my family tree details pertaining to my extended family. Also, there are some misspelled names I'd like to correct for the record. So glad to hear from you.
Thank you William for the help
Thank you !!!! and I can't wait to meet you too!!!!!
Hi William, thanks for confirming you got them. Is there anyway we can link them to Juliana's page on your site? And to link WMAD's photo to his page? Just a thought! Regards, Ben
William, I think(!) I've up loaded 4 photos of Julia. Could you see if they are there and appropriately accessible? Looking down this page I see that Wayne Michael Douglas mentions seeing a portrait of Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas. I wonder if that is still around - I am sure that would be a real treasure. From what you put in your message I gather that my previous one disappeared so I will resend in the info in a few days - when I have time. All the best! Ben
Many thanks for the kind welcome.
Yes it would be great to take the story of John & Bridget Douglass of Yarm further back. The story goes that John, a Catholic, was originally from Scotland but was 'exiled after Stuart defeats', but so far we've never got to the bottom of this and it may be one of those 'family legends'! I'm currently looking at a possibility that John might have been a surgeon-apothecary in Durham, but it's a bit speculative.
Happy to see if I can help contribute to your amazing site, and likewise to help any others who wish to contact me who might have an interest in this branch of the family.
Definitely 'ss', by the way! All have ever since emphatically adopted that particular spelling - my brother, son, and several cousins also use it as a middle name...!
Ian
Does anyone understand the Donald becoming Macdonald …frustrating as I have the
John Donald 1640 x 2 generations
John Donald + 1660
then William Donald 1680 marring Isobel Robertson 1690
then JOHN DOUGLAS 1709 marrying AGNES DONALD 1710
his father James Douglas 1680 + siblings of son john are james, janet , William
child of John & Agnes
= Margaret Douglas 1739 (Aberdeenshire) + sister Isobel Ross Douglas
So the grandmother (Agnes Donald’s mother was probably a Ross? , due to second sister and Scottish naming patterns?)
all of the Glenbervie earls of Angus
Aberdeenshire mostly
can anyone explain this .... most places search seams to have the DONALD as MACDONALD ??? thanks Jackie S
Thank you very much William, that is much appreciated!
Wayne
Hi William
It’s a great pleasure to become acquainted with you.
I connect to Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas as follows:
Great-great grandfather: Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas
Great grandfather: Donald Avery Douglas
Grandfather: Horace Avery Douglas
Father: Edward Joseph Douglas
Me: Wayne Michael Douglas
I see the website only goes as far as my grandfather and I think it would be great if we can add further.
I went to the Douglas homestead, that Donald Avery Douglas established in Morrinsville, New Zealand, and I saw the portrait of Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas hanging on the wall in the dining room. I was actually adopted out as a baby and met the Douglas family (my biological family) for the first time when I was in my early twenties and was quite taken when I saw the portrait.
You may know that Donald Avery Douglas owned a cattle farm, and racehorses with 3 generations involved in the racing as follows:
Donald Avery Douglas: Owner
Roy Douglas: Trainer
Edward Douglas: Jockey
One of the main things that prompted me to join this site was because I have been invited to speak at the British House of Commons on March 2nd – only about 6 weeks away.
Do you know of any decedents from Walter Michael Aubrey Douglas living in England that I might be able to get in contact with?
Thanks William,
Wayne
Thanks William
Rev Percy Douglas 1900 Hooton, Little Sutton, Chester. South Africa Conciliation Committee March 1900.
Rev Percy Douglas 1900-1925 Vicar of Great Sutton from 1900 to 1925. (Same as above?) Son of Rev Robert Douglas
Rev Percy Douglas 1903 St. Paul's Church, Hooton, Cbeshire - conducted marriage ceremony
was indeed one of the people I was interested in learning about he was my great grandfather about to make a start on him this year after doing some research last year about my grandfather LT Percy Douglas R..F.C who is buried with him at Great Sutton Church
Wouldn't THAT be lovely? I found another document that reiterates the one you sent, with some additions. I'll attach it along below. My cousin, who died a couple of years ago was a lifetime member of Clan Douglas of North America, but I didn't get his info before he passed. The family up in Virginia has it in a basement somewhere. I just wanted to trace the genealogy back to Scotland, not go on a treasure hunt.;) I've never heard of the castle We-Wym-Wye mentioned either. That - and having trouble finding James Douglass of Virginia with any documents to support. Thanks for the welcome to the community - I'm looking forward to the search!
Libby
Archibald%20Douglass.docx
Welcome to our community, Marguerite.
Hello William,
I don't speak a very good english but I would be glad if I can help.
I only begin the search about my family and ancestors and I don't any many informations.
Kind regards,
Marg.
I hAny help that you can give would be very welcome.
Yours aye,
William
Thank you William.
My younger brother (technically half brother) Jeremy Alexander Sholto Douglas recently introduced me to The Douglas Archives. Your web site is fascinating. Thank you for putting in the time and effort it must take to maintain it.
Robert Jennings Douglas was our grandfather. He was born on January 27th, 1895 in Green Hill (possibly spelled Greenhill), Sherborne (Dorset county), England. His parents were James Douglas (a solicitor) and Eleanora Douglas, formerly Lawson. My understanding is that James and Eleanora had 2 sons. Sholto was the first, and my grandfather, Robert was the second. Apparently Sholto and Robert were both sent offshore as young men to make their own way in life. My grandfather went to South Africa. Apparently his parents divorced, and his father James married again, and had one child, namely Hamish, who became a solicitor in Bournemouth.
Robert's first wife (my grandmother) was Marjorie May Wallis. They had 3 children. The first was my aunt Joan, who's full name and birth details I don't have, but could probably get from her offspring (my cousins). Joan died of cancer many years ago, but I am not sure how many. The second was a girl named Beryl, but she died at a very young age. The youngest child was my father, Sholto Henry Douglas, born on February 2nd, 1930 in Grahamstown, South Africa. My grandparents divorced when my father was a young lad. My grandfather was remarried to Thelma, who's details I know little of, but can get. They bore 3 children, Robert, Rodney and Sandra. I will get additional details of them, but it is our uncle Robert that has done some research on family history, which I intend to delve into at my first opportunity. My father died in December 2003 just a few weeks before what would have been his 74th birthday. His premature death was due to COPD brought about due to being a heavy smoker for many years.
My mother (first wife of Sholto Henry) was Josephine Anne Charlesworth, born November 4th, 1936 in Settle, Yorkshire. I have 3 siblings: Charles Henry Sholto born November 1st, 1957 in Grahamstown, South Afica. Sally Anne born July 18th, 1959 in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa. Lisa Jane born October 9th, 1962 in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa. I too, was born in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa. My father's second marriage was to Julie Anne Taylor. This is Jeremy's mother (my step-mother). I assume you already have his birth information. He was the second child of my father's second marriage. The first was my other brother Hamish John Sholto Douglas born August 1st, 1979. My brother, Charles Henry Sholto died in August of this year.
My wife (Wendy Jean Hodson, born November 2nd, 1965 in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa) and I relocated from South Africa to the USA in June 1992. We have 2 children: Amy Jean born April 8th, 1997 in St. Louis, Missouri, and Alec Sholto born October 25th, 2000 in Kansas City, Missouri. We currently live in the city of Overland Park in the state of Kansas, which is really a suburb of Kansas City.
I hope this is helpful and not too detailed.
Best wishes,
Michael
Hi William,
That was my grandfather. He lived in Bonne Terre, MO. My father's name was Ernest Vetal Douglas. I wish I could track our line back to Scotland, but haven't been able to do that. I did live in Dunoon, Scotland for a couple of years and saw a portrait of Sir James Douglas hanging in Inverary Castle that looked almost exactly like one of my uncles. I remain fascinated with the history of the Douglas lines from medieval times on.
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Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?
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