Which Douglas line are you researching? Dates and places help making connections.
All areas of Douglas history and genealogy are of interest to me.
I am keen to track back family lines that are considered 'brick walls', and hope to be able to do this through the networking opportunities that arise through media such as this.
Hello William. As far as I can verify, James Douglas b. circa 1880 in Texas Co., MO is my earliest ancestor. He is my great grandfather. I have narrowed my gg grandfather to two likely candidates...
1) Thomas Young Douglas b. Campbell Co., TN
2) William Green Douglas b. Casey Co., KY
Either one of these two. If my gg grandfather is #1, then our mutual friend Paul J Douglas can help me fill in the blanks, because he comes from that same line....
If my gg grandfather is #2, then I still have a lot of work ahead of me at this point.
I have a copy of my great grandfather's death certificate. As an informant, my grand aunt (his daughter) listed his father as *unknown.* I ask my aunts who James' father was and I have conflicting answers... so here I am.
I hope this answered your question. And I haven't had a chance to check if James is here in the archives or not. I'm about to find out.
William, it coud be that one, but I'm thinking that the Thomas Young Douglas I have in mind was born around 20 years later. Let me verify this with Paul and I'll get back with you on this. Thanks for all you do.
George Preston Douglas born November 20,1832 Campbell County,TN died November 10,1902 Ardmore,OK married Lucretia Wilhite born February 12,1836 Campbell County,TN died November 8,1878 Texas County,MO...George Preston and Lucretia had a son named Thomas Young Douglas born March 1,1854 TN.
This is the Thomas Young Douglas that I'm looking at as a possible candidate for my gg grandfather. Thanks to Paul Douglas for helping me find this info. I hope this information helps you discover who I am.
If Thomas Young Douglas is my gg grandfather:
Then James Douglas is his son.
Louis Douglas will be James's son.
Dorothy Jacquelin Douglas Ward was Louis's daughter, the baby.
Jackie Lee Douglas is Dorothy's first born son, which just so happens to be me.
If you need dates and such, I'll be happy to provide them. I'll come back to this site tomorrow to fill in those other blanks. Again, thanks William for all you do.
I actually have a copy of Janet Douglas's birth certificate which will show her birth near Linton Scotland and I have a family tree, I think that Euphmia and John brought eight kids to Canada. Will find it and copy it Cathy Williamson
Thank you for the kind welcome! Supposedly--although I am coming to learn that this could be in question--I am a descendent of Col. John Douglas, possible son of Sir Robert Douglas of Blackerstone. My great great grandmother, Virginia Walker Douglass, was the older sister of Anne McEldin Douglass, who is said to have commissioned the Newman book on the Douglases of Maryland and Virginia. Any leads or info you have on that would be appreciated!
Mr. Douglas, thanks for your comment. I must confess that I am not a Douglas myself. I signed up here because I am doing some historical research into my own clan and wondering if I could find more information here on my own clan to compare notes. Sometimes various clans have different takes on what happened. My grandfather was a McClellan and although there is no proof that we actually descended from the Kirkcudbright clan these mysterious stories seem to be following us around. The McClellan and Douglas clans seem to have been at odds since the events of about 1450 involving the Black Douglas brothers whose rebellion against James II King of Scots failed miserably. What is not clear to me is what relationship the McClellans had if any with the Red Douglas clan. From America it is not so clear that they were even acquainted or whether they all fought together at Flodden Field against the English. Why was the Earl of Douglas so angry with Sir John Herries and McClellan tutor of Bombie that he would see fit to haul them off and have their heads chopped off?
Sir Patrick McClellan was the tutor of Bombie. So whose estates was he managing? Was the Earl of Douglas still a minor? Why did King James II intervene so urgently on behalf of Sir John Herries and McClellan? If they were someone else's vassals why would he care how the Earl of Douglas managed his own vassals? Would that not be deemed interference by Douglas? How do the Red Douglas view the McClellans now in modern times? Thanks for your help.
That chart is very interesting. I am wondering where it came from. Also, on what basis did the Douglas consider the McClellans as their vassals? Did the Red Douglas assume the properties of the Black Douglas after their failed rebellion or did that pass to other hands? Thanks for your help.
Mr Douglas, Let me compliment on your Historical Blog and Website. I have looked at the Percy Douglas HISTORY OF THE FAMILY DOUGLAS and believe the Barony associated with the line of Douglas of Glenbervie, Kincardine was extinct upon the death in 1986 of Sholto Courtenay Mackenzie Douglas. I am looking to see if there is a Douglas related to this branch of the family who may be interested in an extraordinary portrait of the Rt.Hon. Sylvester Douglas, later Baron Glenbervie of Kincardine (1743 - 1823), currently in the possession of an important English family and by the renowned portrait painter Sir Thomas Lawrence, PRA (1769 - 1830). I thought that with your extensive knowledge of the family genealogy you may be able to help. I look forward to your thoughts. Kind regards, Claire Swait csoffice@virginmedia.com
My grand father number 7 is John Douglas and Cristian Nicol, John born about 1712 en Costleton, Royburgh. Your son is James Douglas married Katherine Walker
Thanks for sharing the photo of Revd Gardner on the yatch. The date lines up exactly with a note he put in the Parish Magazine in that year refering to being "in Spitzbergen in the North of the Polar Sea". I could sent you the short article, but not sure about "posting" it as a photo.
As far as I am aware the Douglas arrived in the North East of England and held an area in Upper Weardale for a great deal of time running rings around the English and raiding across the area. I have the details some where and will forward to you.
JP Douglas, my paternal grandfather, died c.1918 when my father was about 8. My father possessed a history of the Douglases of Morton by one Wylde who had married a Douglas. My father's birth in 1910 was recorded in the book. That's as much I know of my family's origins. Where do you suggest I look? Yours ever, Robin Douglas
I don't know about the house of Orange....I know my aunt Orange Pauline Douglas was named for this....they were Scot and English mix....will have to dig out the info again....
I recently purchased a large mezzotint print of a very regal looking military man. I have had it slightly cleaned and reframed. The gentleman is Lieutenant-General Sir Neil Douglas, and dated 1850 something (my picture is at home, so I forget the date). It is also signed by him personally. I have tried to do some research into him but have only come up with the fact that he was Governor of Edinburgh castle 1842-1847, he may have been part of Glenfinart house. In the picture he has the Gold Cross (which was in the Napoleonic wars I think.. but this may be too early..?) But as you say, the history seems patchy.
If anyone has any information on this gentleman I would really appreciate it, as I think he deserves some recognition as he looks so well decorated!
Interestingly, William, I'm a "two-ess" Douglasses and I have had SO many research responses on this spelling, I am back to the starting-point! One felllow explained it thusly: the two-ess branch lost all its lands to the Angus, or Red, branch after generally incurring the wrath of the Stewarts, and the Battle of Arnekhom (Sp?) in 1441. Most responses, however, have simply pointed out that various spellings occur, that there is no real explanation.
I have read tons of Nigel Tranter's fantastic novels and also been a member of the American "Dubh Ghlas" site. This, in preparation to a much-anticipated visit to Scotland I plan for the Spring if 2012. I also read a biography of the black American abolitionist, who took our clan name. Appreciate any insight on the twa spellings!
New to this page, and trying to get my information altogether to upload. Thanks for help though, I will put up within the next week hopefully. Good luck to you also.
Hello. Thanks very much for the welcome. I've only just recently discovered this family line and I am very excited to have done so because so far as my family goes I've seen nothing but Germans! :) Yes, so, William, b. 1610, is my 10th great-grandfather. His granddaughter, Elizabeth, b. 1668, married into another well known New London, CT clan--the Dart(e) family. Much has been published on this family so I'm very happily surprised to see that's the case for the Douglas line as well. I'm very much looking forward to exploring these message threads.
Hello again. I forgot to ask. To which Douglas family does William, b. 1610, belong to? Douglas of ..... (where)? I tried to find it myself but wasn't successful.
Thank you William for your feedback. The Battle of Otterburn video did take a lot of time to research and produce. It will depend on the number of requests from people as to what Video clip will be considered next.
It was the Black Douglas (wasn't he sir James Douglas also?) I was referring to that he / we are descended from (see the pagefrom the book I've uploaded late last night titled chapter V John Stuart Rust 1855 , then next page is the reference.
John Rust was a registra of Birth, Deaths and marriages and was in council etc.
Well, that depends on who "they" are. If "they" are my fellow hunters, yes, absolutely I hope they see me coming. If "they" are elk or deer, I suppose I'd rather they not see me. If "they" are bear, I hope we see each other coming!
Hi William, it is quite possible that John was a brother to William as according to the Archives in Prince Edward Island William left home with 6 other brothers who settled in Nova Scotia,(possibly Cape Breton area) though I have not found any other Douglases aboard the Lovely Nelly, they possibly came on another boat. I have not been able to give William parents though possible his father was James. This is my husband's maternal line so was able to come forward with no problem at all or backward. if anyone can help me get back from William it would be very much appreciated as due to distance (appears to be a big puddle between here and there) I have to rely on the internet.
I am just starting to find out where my Douglas family comes from. I have read some about the Douglas Clan origins and find it extremely interesting. The only thing I know about my family is that my great grandfather was Fredrick Horace Douglas and my great grandmother was Cheta Douglas. They once owned a grocery store in about 1900 in Miami, Florida , sold it and moved to a small farm in High Springs, Florida. I haven't been able to find out any other family history yet.
The only info I have is that Alexander Douglas married Christian Forbes in Cromarty in 1806. They had 2 sons, Joseph, my great great grandfather who was born in Cousland, Midlothian in 1811, and John born 1809. What is a macer? Alexander Douglas is such a common name in these parts so finding more about him has drawn a blank.
re Frances Douglas and James Templeton McGarrah (my 5x grandparents). There is a birth of James Templeton McGarrah to James and Frances in 1813 in Midlothian.This is before the many daughters were produced in Middlesex. Could these have been the same people. Any ideas please?
Actually am using logic on this one - hopefully I am right. All the girls born to James and Frances Templeton McGarrah in Brentford, Middx and listed at Wesleyan Ministry in London are listed as being to James and Frances Templeton. Similarly all the daughters are listed on censuses as Templeton except Ruth BUT on birth certificate for Phoebe(only one born after compulsory registration in 1837), her death certificate, marriage certificate for younger Frances born 1818 and married 1856, and death certificates for older Frances and for James, name is given as Templeton McGarrah. So the only mention of a James and Frances Templeton outside of Brentford is IGI batch C116974 dated 22.9.1813 in Peniuik, Midlothian. Given that , according to other posts, there were Douglas in this area, maybe there is someone out there who can link these. I found the Douglas name for Frances' maiden name on Phoebe's birth certificate.
Im seeking to know more family history from my great grandmother. The only info I have is this:
Harry Bernard Drazkowski and Helen F. Thompson were married before 1919 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. She was an American war bride, Harry having been stationed in the Scottish airdrome of Drem, which was near her home. Helen F. Thompson was born on 21 Jun 1893 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. She immigrated on 26 Aug 1919. She died on 16 Mar 1990 at the age of 96 in Winona, Winona co, MN. Helen was buried in St. Mary's cemetery, Winona, Winona co, MN. She had Social Security Number 543-24-6575.
Winona County, Minnesota Census, 1920
Town: Winona City Enum. District: 209
Page No.: 12A Fam. No.: 241
Surname: Droszkowski Drazkowski Given Names: Helen
Yes this is one and the same John Black Douglas - he was married to Georgiana (also known as Georgina) Bennett in St Pancreas church london. they then immigrated to NSW where my Great Grandfather Buchanan Douglas was born, He had 2 sons one of which is Albert Douglas my Grandfather who then had 6 sons of which my Father Sidney Douglas is the eldest and I am the eldest of the next generation. I think coming from the UK to Maitland area in NSW in 1851 must have been like going to the moon.
Hi William, Yes that is the same person, he stole a blanket off the community line and a spoon from a farmhouse, he was found in the home of a shepherd, whereby he was taken to the gaol and the family tried to help him escape the reports have him as being extremely violent toward the police when they took him his food. he was sent to Inverness where he was transported for 7 years to Australia. He had separated from his wife Euphemia prior to this event. my initial search was to see whether John Black Douglas ever acknowledged his convict father, but it seems that he did as my GGrandfather Buchanan was born in the same area where Hugh had been sent as a convict. and Hugh was mentioned on the ships records for John Black Douglas as a farmer. the convict records state that Hugh was a House Servant.
William H. Douglas
Jan 25, 2011
Jack Douglas
Hello William. As far as I can verify, James Douglas b. circa 1880 in Texas Co., MO is my earliest ancestor. He is my great grandfather. I have narrowed my gg grandfather to two likely candidates...
1) Thomas Young Douglas b. Campbell Co., TN
2) William Green Douglas b. Casey Co., KY
Either one of these two. If my gg grandfather is #1, then our mutual friend Paul J Douglas can help me fill in the blanks, because he comes from that same line....
If my gg grandfather is #2, then I still have a lot of work ahead of me at this point.
I have a copy of my great grandfather's death certificate. As an informant, my grand aunt (his daughter) listed his father as *unknown.* I ask my aunts who James' father was and I have conflicting answers... so here I am.
I hope this answered your question. And I haven't had a chance to check if James is here in the archives or not. I'm about to find out.
Thanks.
Jack
Feb 3, 2011
Jack Douglas
Feb 5, 2011
Jack Douglas
George Preston Douglas born November 20,1832 Campbell County,TN died November 10,1902 Ardmore,OK married Lucretia Wilhite born February 12,1836 Campbell County,TN died November 8,1878 Texas County,MO...George Preston and Lucretia had a son named Thomas Young Douglas born March 1,1854 TN.
This is the Thomas Young Douglas that I'm looking at as a possible candidate for my gg grandfather. Thanks to Paul Douglas for helping me find this info. I hope this information helps you discover who I am.
If Thomas Young Douglas is my gg grandfather:
Then James Douglas is his son.
Louis Douglas will be James's son.
Dorothy Jacquelin Douglas Ward was Louis's daughter, the baby.
Jackie Lee Douglas is Dorothy's first born son, which just so happens to be me.
If you need dates and such, I'll be happy to provide them. I'll come back to this site tomorrow to fill in those other blanks. Again, thanks William for all you do.
Jack
Feb 5, 2011
Cathy Williamson
Feb 8, 2011
James Christopher Peoples
Feb 9, 2011
Candi Calkins
Feb 12, 2011
Candi Calkins
Feb 13, 2011
Candi Calkins
Feb 14, 2011
james andrew douglas
The info I have goes back to John Douglas born 1857 in Hawick and his Father,
Thomas Douglas but do not have birth date.
Feb 18, 2011
Thomas E Huntzinger
The ever-poplular William Douglas, 1640 to Massachussetts, via his dau. Sarah who m. John Keeney.
Oops, gotta go, it's almost Balvene time.
Tom
Feb 18, 2011
james iain douglas
Feb 20, 2011
Eshe Douglas
Feb 21, 2011
Claire Swait
Feb 24, 2011
abramor graciela g
My grand father number 7 is John Douglas and Cristian Nicol, John born about 1712 en Costleton, Royburgh. Your son is James Douglas married Katherine Walker
Feb 27, 2011
David Newman
William,
Thanks for sharing the photo of Revd Gardner on the yatch. The date lines up exactly with a note he put in the Parish Magazine in that year refering to being "in Spitzbergen in the North of the Polar Sea". I could sent you the short article, but not sure about "posting" it as a photo.
Regards
David Newman
Mar 1, 2011
Colin Ian Douglas
Good morning William,
As far as I am aware the Douglas arrived in the North East of England and held an area in Upper Weardale for a great deal of time running rings around the English and raiding across the area. I have the details some where and will forward to you.
Regards Colin Douglas
Mar 17, 2011
Donna Wasser
Apr 1, 2011
Robin (Robert) Adrian Douglas
Hello William,
JP Douglas, my paternal grandfather, died c.1918 when my father was about 8. My father possessed a history of the Douglases of Morton by one Wylde who had married a Douglas. My father's birth in 1910 was recorded in the book. That's as much I know of my family's origins. Where do you suggest I look? Yours ever, Robin Douglas
Apr 5, 2011
Mary Kathryn Douglas
Apr 7, 2011
Tom Philpin
Hi WIlliam
I recently purchased a large mezzotint print of a very regal looking military man. I have had it slightly cleaned and reframed. The gentleman is Lieutenant-General Sir Neil Douglas, and dated 1850 something (my picture is at home, so I forget the date). It is also signed by him personally. I have tried to do some research into him but have only come up with the fact that he was Governor of Edinburgh castle 1842-1847, he may have been part of Glenfinart house. In the picture he has the Gold Cross (which was in the Napoleonic wars I think.. but this may be too early..?) But as you say, the history seems patchy.
If anyone has any information on this gentleman I would really appreciate it, as I think he deserves some recognition as he looks so well decorated!
Many thanks
Tom
Apr 7, 2011
Alfred Wilson Douglass, Jr.
Interestingly, William, I'm a "two-ess" Douglasses and I have had SO many research responses on this spelling, I am back to the starting-point! One felllow explained it thusly: the two-ess branch lost all its lands to the Angus, or Red, branch after generally incurring the wrath of the Stewarts, and the Battle of Arnekhom (Sp?) in 1441. Most responses, however, have simply pointed out that various spellings occur, that there is no real explanation.
I have read tons of Nigel Tranter's fantastic novels and also been a member of the American "Dubh Ghlas" site. This, in preparation to a much-anticipated visit to Scotland I plan for the Spring if 2012. I also read a biography of the black American abolitionist, who took our clan name. Appreciate any insight on the twa spellings!
Cheers, aye!
Fred
Apr 11, 2011
Alfred Wilson Douglass, Jr.
Apr 12, 2011
Cynthia Lee Douglass
Hi William,
I live in Temeula, Ca now. I did live in Federal Way Wa but I never lived in Silverdale.
Thank you for sending me an e-mail...
Cynthia
Apr 14, 2011
Sandra Marie (Duncan) Douglas
Apr 18, 2011
Anne Douglass
Hi William,
This has been a difficult search for the elusive William Douglass in my tree. I'm
going to Scotland in the summer, and it would be so nice to have more info. I
have my nephew's DNA but I'm unsure how to use it to track the right family
tree. Thanks for emailing. Anne
Apr 19, 2011
Anne Douglass
Thanks for the suggestion! Our DNA record is attached to Ancestry.com and
I'm not sure how to move it to the Douglas archives. I think we may need more
tests too. Thank you William for your help. Anne
Apr 21, 2011
Anne Douglass
Thank you William for this information. I'm going to work on it today. In your
opinion, how important is the one s or two ss on the name? That is, in tracing
the family through the generations?
Anne
Apr 25, 2011
Cynthia Lee Douglass
May 1, 2011
Kirsten Schwab-Norwood
May 5, 2011
Kirsten Schwab-Norwood
Hello again. I forgot to ask. To which Douglas family does William, b. 1610, belong to? Douglas of ..... (where)? I tried to find it myself but wasn't successful.
Thanks, Kirsten
May 5, 2011
Andrew Douglas
GDay William!
I've sent you a message in to your mailbox yesterday asking if you can provide us with some assistance. :)
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kind Regards
Andrew
May 9, 2011
Andrew Douglas
Hi William
No, I didn't get it mate. I checked and re-checked and it seems to have been sucked into the e-vortex.
I'll send you a message through here first and hopefully you'll get it ok.
Andrew
May 9, 2011
Stephen Hatcher
Thank you William for your feedback. The Battle of Otterburn video did take a lot of time to research and produce. It will depend on the number of requests from people as to what Video clip will be considered next.
Regards Aye,
Stephen
May 14, 2011
Mindy porter
Levi Douglass was born 1782 Morris New Jersey, US and died 1852 Ontario Canada
May 16, 2011
david andrew james drysdale
yes thats me on the pipes my pride and joy
Jun 7, 2011
Jackie Stoddard
thanks for this input William :-)
It was the Black Douglas (wasn't he sir James Douglas also?) I was referring to that he / we are descended from (see the pagefrom the book I've uploaded late last night titled chapter V John Stuart Rust 1855 , then next page is the reference.
John Rust was a registra of Birth, Deaths and marriages and was in council etc.
Jun 18, 2011
Alison Louise Cudworth
Jul 1, 2011
James Harrison Douglas
Jul 14, 2011
john alfred douglas
My family tree start around Annan my part of it one of them went to the IOM { Robert Douglas 1862 - 1935 wife Margaret Clarke 1862-1915 ??? }
And from there some went to Canada.
In 1947 { approx } went to live in a small village in Yorkshire { Cowling }
Now wot do i do with the tree i have got.
there is 4 people on this part of the tree with no info
John Douglas
Albert Douglas
William Douglas wife Ethel Cain 1898-1978
Alfred Douglas 1899-1918 could have been killed 1st WW
It was done by Peter Mitchell Ross in 1983 from Carlisle
John Douglas
Jul 20, 2011
Todd Douglas
Todd
Jul 29, 2011
Darlene MacDonald
Jul 29, 2011
Michael Dustin Douglas
Howdy William,
I am just starting to find out where my Douglas family comes from. I have read some about the Douglas Clan origins and find it extremely interesting. The only thing I know about my family is that my great grandfather was Fredrick Horace Douglas and my great grandmother was Cheta Douglas. They once owned a grocery store in about 1900 in Miami, Florida , sold it and moved to a small farm in High Springs, Florida. I haven't been able to find out any other family history yet.
Jul 29, 2011
Norman Thomson Douglas
Aug 15, 2011
Linda French
Aug 18, 2011
Linda French
Actually am using logic on this one - hopefully I am right. All the girls born to James and Frances Templeton McGarrah in Brentford, Middx and listed at Wesleyan Ministry in London are listed as being to James and Frances Templeton. Similarly all the daughters are listed on censuses as Templeton except Ruth BUT on birth certificate for Phoebe(only one born after compulsory registration in 1837), her death certificate, marriage certificate for younger Frances born 1818 and married 1856, and death certificates for older Frances and for James, name is given as Templeton McGarrah. So the only mention of a James and Frances Templeton outside of Brentford is IGI batch C116974 dated 22.9.1813 in Peniuik, Midlothian. Given that , according to other posts, there were Douglas in this area, maybe there is someone out there who can link these. I found the Douglas name for Frances' maiden name on Phoebe's birth certificate.
Aug 24, 2011
Kathleen Marylin Maytum
Harry Bernard Drazkowski and Helen F. Thompson were married before 1919 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. She was an American war bride, Harry having been stationed in the Scottish airdrome of Drem, which was near her home. Helen F. Thompson was born on 21 Jun 1893 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. She immigrated on 26 Aug 1919. She died on 16 Mar 1990 at the age of 96 in Winona, Winona co, MN. Helen was buried in St. Mary's cemetery, Winona, Winona co, MN. She had Social Security Number 543-24-6575.
Winona County, Minnesota Census, 1920
Town: Winona City Enum. District: 209
Page No.: 12A Fam. No.: 241
Surname: Droszkowski Drazkowski Given Names: Helen
Relation: W Sex: F
Color or Race: W Age: 26
Year of Imm.: 1919 Birth Place: Scotland
Father's Birth Place: Scotland Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
DRAZKOWSKI, HELEN THOMPSON
CertID# 1990-MN-008650
Date of Birth: 06/21/1893
Place of Birth: OUT OF STATE
Mother Maiden Name: DOUGLAS
Date of Death: 03/16/1990
County of Death: WINONA
ToDo: Scottish marriage records for Thompson/Douglas
my family that would know has passed away Jerome and Dennis. I hope maybe someone can help me track my great grandmother. Thank you
Sep 2, 2011
Kim Douglas-Reid
Hi,
Yes this is one and the same John Black Douglas - he was married to Georgiana (also known as Georgina) Bennett in St Pancreas church london. they then immigrated to NSW where my Great Grandfather Buchanan Douglas was born, He had 2 sons one of which is Albert Douglas my Grandfather who then had 6 sons of which my Father Sidney Douglas is the eldest and I am the eldest of the next generation. I think coming from the UK to Maitland area in NSW in 1851 must have been like going to the moon.
Sep 11, 2011
Paul Douglas
Thank you very much William still checking all the info.
Paul.
Sep 11, 2011
Kim Douglas-Reid
Sep 17, 2011