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John F Drysdale
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Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on January 31, 2013 at 20:27
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Kate , you should perhaps share n compare notes about Elisabeth Beveridge with Diana [nee Drysdale] Montieth , between her and her Beveridge cousins , you may get an answer .
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Comment by Kate O'Brien Wooddell on January 31, 2013 at 19:10
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Russell, after scanning about one thousand (I mean that literally) old Scotland marriage documents yesterday, I ran across a John Drysdale marrying an Elisabeth Beveridge. I didn't remember why that name sounded familiar until checking back into this site today and rereading your message below. Given the propensity for families marrying cousins and mroe distantly related relatives, this gave me an Ah-ha! moment. The marriage in 1812 fits perfectly with John sayign he was born in 1796 and was married at 15, then widowed and left with a child by 16. If I could find a death cert (or a child's birth/baptismal record) to match this Elisabeth, we may have a winner, finally. The other intersting thing about this potential match-up is that it seems John and Elisabeth were married twice within weeks of each other: May 13, 1812 (John would still be 15) in Glasgow (Lanarkshire) and then again on May 15, 1812 in Dumferline (Fife). It seems to me a very young couple may have had a quick ceremony in one location than traveled to the home locale of the other to do it all again. Maybe on ewas a civil ceremony and one a churhc service. Who knows? But I find the coincidences here very, very interesting. I also ran into a new piece of info yesterday that tells me HIS father was named John. So perhaps the person you mention nelow is indeed my John's father. However, that same document listed his mother's name as Jane, not Katherine. Of course, one may have died young and been supplanted by the other. If your JohnDrysdale (b. 1779 Dumferline) is the father of my John Drysdale (b. 1796 in "Galloway" -?) then he, too, would have been a very young father, but not impossibly so.
Do you have a death date for your John? I found a new news article about mine the other day, and for the first time ever he mentions his family. No names were given, but he said his father lived to 103 (give or take a few years, as I don't have that article in front of me right now, but it was over 100) and that a brother lived to abot 97. Or, as you suggested below, if your 1779 John Drysdale is not his father, perhaps my John IS descended from your John's Uncle John. This is getting exciting.
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I appreciate the suggestion, Russell. I want to try to find and then exhaust any avenues that lead me to my John's stated "Galloway" home before I expand out to other shires. For a while I thought he might be descended from a James Drysdale and Catherine Dempster, but following that line disproved the notion. All I know about John's childhood is that he supposedly ran away at age 7, stowed aboard a ship and got sent home from New York. So I have to assume he grew up near a sea port. And whatever caused him to leave Canada after several decades, late in his life, sent him chasing fertile delta farm land in Mississsippi and Arkansas for a while before his final migration to West Virgnia. Both of these things - the delta lands AND the WV mountains would resonate with an old man remembering the soil of SW Scotland and the "Galloway Hills." I really do feel like I am chasing a ghost.
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I do have a John Drysdale in that era/period , wrong fellow I think . JonDrysdale B 28 dec. 1779 , Session , Dunfermline , Fife , Scotland , took as a wife one Katherine Beveridge she was born a year later .
His father was Robert Drysdale , also from Dunfermline ,He had two brothers I can document as John Drysdale , as well as William [Willie]Drysdale , He could be one of John or williams kids .
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Here's the line of descent in USA:
John L. Drysdale (1796 Scotland-1922 WV, USA)
Charley F(rederick) Drysdale (1878 Arkansas, USA-1964 Missouri, USA) - youngest of John's various children through 3 or possibly 4 wives in three different countries over 70 years
John Frederick Drysdale (1904 WV-1951 WV) oldest son in a family of 8
Charles Albert ("Chuck") Drysdale (1929 WV-1995 FL) oldest surviving son in a family of 9
Charles Edward ("Chip") Drysdale (1957 GA-living FL) - my ex-husband (Chuck had no other children to my knowledge)
Rhea C. Drysdale (1982 FL-living NY) - our daughter/only child through Chip finally had a son through another wife
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BTW, his birthdate is reported as 12 Aug 1796, "Galloway" Scotland.
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Russell, it was your original posting of John's obituary that led me to this site. I have been searching John L. Drysdale forever. The other night a friend jumped in to help and she pulled up your posting here on the Douglas page. I'd never heard of this archive before and was thrilled to discover it, especially this Drysdale page. Are you on Ancestry.com? I have posted another 5 or 6 news articles that ran about old man Drysdale (from all over the U.S.) between 1910 and his death in 1922. But they are all based on interviews with him, so while they are colorful, they do not give enough concrete information to verify.
Yes, I have old John's "reported" birthdate. The problem is that I cannot find a birth or baptismal cert (or even a death cert) to "prove" it. Today, alone, I scanned 899 "hits" about travel (ships' manifest, immigration, naturalization, etc. from Australia to the UK to Canada and the US) with ZERO definitive and very few even possible connections. That is why I am traveling to West Virginia in Feb. To hunt down his grave and visit as many county courthouses as I have to find a death certificate. I plan to spend a lot of time at the Greenbrier Historical Society in Lewisburg, too. You don't live to 126 (or even approximately close to that) without somebody in your area making note of it. He bragged about voting, so there should be voter registration lists, etc. John L. Drysdale has becoem the biggest puzzle I have ever tackled in my life. It's intriguing, but very, very frustrating. If I could get even one clue as to which town or even parish he was born in, back in Scotland, that would be a huge help. He said "Galloway," but that is a shire or adminstrative districtt, which, in fact, doesn't even exist anymore under that name. I see a goodly number of old Drysdales in the Wigtown parish, but nothin that directly links me to John. Okay, I'll shut up now because I thnk I'm ranting.
Talk to you later.
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John Drysdale , Farmer , 126, Dies in West Virginia ....CLARKSBURG , W. Va. , Aug 28 , At the age of 126 years and a few days , John Drysdale , a retired farmer of near Craigsville in Nicholas county is dead after an illness, according to word recieved today from Richwood. He was born in Scotland in 1796. Relatives say the date of his birth is well authenticated . [NEW CASTLE NEWS , MONDAY, AUGUST 28 , 1922.] ........ found it .
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I cant say for sure . I think I posted the old guys Obituary on here . Do you have any good guesses at birthdays ?
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Russell, are you related to "my" Drysdales? I am obsessed with cracking through the wall of silence behind old John L. Drysdale. I need to find at least one official document, death, marriage(s), birth, naturalization, immigration, something.... from which to start verfying all the things that have been (self) reported in those old news articles. The only descendants I know are the grandchildren and great grabndchildren of John Frederick Drysdale (in photo above), John L's grandson from his youngest son, Charley F. I'd love to meet up with you at end of Feb if you can help me unlock this mystery.
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