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Which Douglas line are you researching? Dates and places help making connections.
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At 19:52 on February 14, 2011, William Douglas said…

The chart is taken from the excellent Stirnet site - membership of which is well worhwhile.

If you want a full history then I suggest Michael Brown's book, The Black Douglases, published by Tuckwell Press.  sadly, it is not in print, but 2nd hand copies should be available.  It deals with the land allocation very well.

 

At 0:08 on February 14, 2011, William Douglas said…

The early Maclellans are not very well documented. This tree shows some thoughts on the subject:

To enlarge, press Ctlr and +

 

This link tells some of the story: http://www.old-kirkcudbright.net/pages/castle.asp

All this was over 500 years ago - I do not think that what happened then matters much now, in terms of relationships.

 

William

At 19:40 on February 13, 2011, William Douglas said…
The Herries and the McLellans/McClellans were vassals of the Douglases, but not very happy about it.  Following the Black Bull Dinner, when the 6th Earl of Douglas was murdered by the King in Edinburgh Castle in 1440, they saw their chance of shaking off their servidude.  This, of course, did not go down well, and the Douglases sought to bring them to heal, hence the killings.

Whilst there was much infighting between border families, they were united (usually) against the English, and as vassals, the Herries and McLellans would be required to join in the fighting.

When the Black Douglases fell from grace, the Red Douglases (Earl of Angus) saw their chance to take their place. Presumably the Mclellans again saw their chance of shaking off the dreaded Black side of the family.

You proably know that a tutor is someone appointed to run the family business whilst the laird is a minor?
At 21:50 on February 12, 2011, William Douglas said…

Welcome to our Community Network, Candi.

Who is your earliest know Douglas ancestor? Is that William Douglas, b1610?

Yours aye,

William

 
 
 

Making conections

The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.

Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.

Professions also help.

'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?


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