Jonathan ELLIOT Sr born 16 Aug 1701 at Framingham, Middlesex, MA. He married 25 Mar 1726 at Sutton, Worcester Co, MA,
Jonathan ELLIOT Jr born at Sutton, Worchester Co, MA, 28 Feb 1750
JOHN ELLIOT born at Sutton, MA, 17 May 1758; married first 15 May 1781 to Mehitable SIBLEY born 27 Jul 1762 at Sutton, MA; dau of Samuel and Abigail [PARK] SIBLEY. She was the sister of Lucy Sibley, the mother of Simon Bardon of Croydon, Sullivan Co, NH
Sutton, Worcester Co, MA, then on to Croydon, Sullivan Co, NH, then through Ohio, onto Iowa where I was born.
My family was not as lucky to be sent to the Caribbean, we ended up in Massachusetts, as Scottish Royalists Anglican-Episcopalians like Barbados, fighting for king Charles of Charles Town, not SC but MA, indentured to Puritans.
Leaving it up to you, if you think it has prevalence for a new thread, for discussion, and people will be interested in it, I would say put it into a new thread topic for discussion.
Did you know that "Gomes" is a Portugese surname? Peter Gomes of Havard also, and was found to have ancestry that were not slaves, because Quaker, of the Bailey family freed them. Did you know Frederick before he was Douglass was a Bailey?
The precusor to African slaves, in the Barbados Colony origanaly Portugese, then of England, were Scottish, POWs from the Cromwellian Civil War. http://gorrenberry.com/barbados-pow-scots/
Barbados is Anglican, and the Hamilton were Scottish Anglican, and Alexander was from the West Indies. This means that Alexander Hamilton's family could be from indentured Scots fighting for Charles II. Also means as for us Elliott in America, skin coloration is not a factor, in determining Scottish Y-DNA.
With http://forebears.io/surnames/ just insert surname at end. Using http://named.publicprofiler.org/ with Douglas, and Elliot with a single ending letter, they concentrate more on the Scottish side of the border. With Douglass, and Elliott with a double ending last letter they concentrate on the English side of the border, with Elliott highly concentrated in Co. Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland.
The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.
Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?
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Jonathan ELLIOT Sr born 16 Aug 1701 at Framingham, Middlesex, MA. He married 25 Mar 1726 at Sutton, Worcester Co, MA,
Jonathan ELLIOT Jr born at Sutton, Worchester Co, MA, 28 Feb 1750
JOHN ELLIOT born at Sutton, MA, 17 May 1758; married first 15 May 1781 to Mehitable SIBLEY born 27 Jul 1762 at Sutton, MA; dau of Samuel and Abigail [PARK] SIBLEY. She was the sister of Lucy Sibley, the mother of Simon Bardon of Croydon, Sullivan Co, NH
Sutton, Worcester Co, MA, then on to Croydon, Sullivan Co, NH, then through Ohio, onto Iowa where I was born.
My family was not as lucky to be sent to the Caribbean, we ended up in Massachusetts, as Scottish Royalists Anglican-Episcopalians like Barbados, fighting for king Charles of Charles Town, not SC but MA, indentured to Puritans.
If of North Carolina, and had FTDNA done, there is this group you may be interested in; https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/argyll-colony-north-carolina/about
The admin is great, but I have questions about that co admin.
http://forebears.io/surnames/Douglas#nations2014
Country Incidence Frequency
Jamaica 7,175 1: 379
Scotland 6,228 1: 851
Bet you the ones in Scotland are black Douglas. Have you heard of the "Black Douglas", and those in Jamaica are "White Douglas".
Leaving it up to you, if you think it has prevalence for a new thread, for discussion, and people will be interested in it, I would say put it into a new thread topic for discussion.
ABOUT "AFRICAN AMERICAN LIVES 2"
"The critically acclaimed PBS broadcasts AFRICAN AMERICAN LIVES (2006) and OPRAH'S ROOTS (2007) shined a national spotlight on the powerful process of discovering one's family history. In February 2008 on PBS, Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. will guide an all-new group - poet Maya Angelou, actor Morgan Freeman, theologian Peter Gomes,...."
http://www.pbs.org/about/blogs/news/prof-henry-louis-gates-jr-takes-questions-from-parents-and-families-on-pbs-parents-site-november-14-2007/
Did you know that "Gomes" is a Portugese surname? Peter Gomes of Havard also, and was found to have ancestry that were not slaves, because Quaker, of the Bailey family freed them. Did you know Frederick before he was Douglass was a Bailey?
The precusor to African slaves, in the Barbados Colony origanaly Portugese, then of England, were Scottish, POWs from the Cromwellian Civil War.
http://gorrenberry.com/barbados-pow-scots/
Barbados is Anglican, and the Hamilton were Scottish Anglican, and Alexander was from the West Indies. This means that Alexander Hamilton's family could be from indentured Scots fighting for Charles II. Also means as for us Elliott in America, skin coloration is not a factor, in determining Scottish Y-DNA.
With http://forebears.io/surnames/ just insert surname at end.
Using http://named.publicprofiler.org/ with Douglas, and Elliot with a single ending letter, they concentrate more on the Scottish side of the border. With Douglass, and Elliott with a double ending last letter they concentrate on the English side of the border, with Elliott highly concentrated in Co. Fermanagh, Ulster, Ireland.
For me: Phinehas > Lucy > Abigail "Nabe" Gowing > Hosea Robbins > Frank Robbins > LaMonte Robbins > Ruth Robbins > Me
Curious to your line to Phinehas (Phineas) Douglass, I descend from his daughter Lucy Abigail Douglass Gowing.
Welcome Ian !
Hi, Ian! Who did you get your DNA testing done with? Look into the Yahoo group for Family Tree DNA's Douglas project. They should be able to help fit your results in with everyone else's.
Welcome to our community, ian.
I have not come across this family before (as far as I can recall) but note a decade old discussion about them here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DOUGLASS/2005-03/1112152940
I wonder if they got any further?
William
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The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.
Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?
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