The Thomas born in 1824 is mysterious. I'm confident that he married Margaret Smollen, who I found in Irish records as born in 1822 in Collinstown, Westmeath, Ireland. According to the 1850 census, their son Thomas F. Douglass was born in 1848 in Ireland, their next child, Mary, was born in Philadelphia in 1850, so that brackets the years they could have emigrated fairly closely. That 1850 census lists his profession as tailor. Thomas (1824) died before the 1860 census (Margaret is listed as widowed in other documents, and I have a record of his burial here in Philadelphia.
There are two other Douglasses that died that same month and are buried in the same place - Thomas (born 1857) and Elizabeth (born 1832). They might be part of the puzzle, or they might be just a coincidence.
What I don't have is any idea of where in Ireland they came from. So going backward, which is what I'm trying to do now, what I have is more circumstantial. Thomas could actually be born in County Cork in 1827, but it looks more likely to be Clones, Monaghan, where I found baptismal records from 1827 that shows he was born in 1824. From there, there's a Thomas born in 1802, married to Fanny Litle, who is my best guess at Thomas's father, given everything, but now I manage to be both out-on-a-limb and up against a brick wll.
Hi William. I have not been on the archives in a while and had left all my information but somehow can't find it .
My Major James Douglas was born Springwood Park Roxburgh 25/9/1768.He was sent out to India as a 16 year old cadet in East India Company.He had four children to a Indian Bibi.Rachel Douglas born1797 Bombay, Catherine born 1799 Bombay, Mary born1801 Bombay and James born1804 Bombay.
Major James Douglas died 1814 at his estate Edenside Kelso.
I have tried to find his parents and all I can find is a baptism for 22/3/1769 Ancrum Roxburgh father given as James Douglas.
Being born at Springwood Park the home of the Douglas nobility.
Rachael Douglas married James White a surgeon in Edinburgh 27/2/1821 at Saint Cuthberts and her brother James Douglas was also a surgeon.
They migrated to Australia with their children and her sisters and brother on the Kohinoor in 1852.
Hi..my 2x GF was Lemuel Douglas b. 1811 in NOrth Carolina USA. He died in Orange County NC 1893 and is buried there..
His children, according to 1880 census, were Susan J, Martha F, John M, Levi W, Joseph Y, Sely A, and youngest, William Andrew Douglas, my 1x great grandfather, whom I was named after.
Lemuel was married to Frances Browning.
I have found in 1755 tax list from Orange County a John Douglas. The 1779 tax list has John Douglas, David Douglas, and William Douglas. None of them have wills that I can locate, only probate files with no family information, outside of of a probate for a John Douglas from 1816 with a widow of Margaret. I don’t know if this is the same John on the 3 tax lists.
I need help past Lemuel. I can’t find out his parents names, and thus, can’t connect him to one of the 3 Douglas’ on the tax lists. Please help if anyone knows anything about these Orange County NC Douglas’s.
William Andrew Broadway
Swansea IL USA
I am not sure how to reply. William Douglas, yes, I believe we have touched base before. I have a typed out "history" written by my Aunt Lucille Douglas. It's a bit romanticized. I have some pictures of ancestors. My Father Angus Dearborn Douglas was born in...…….Dearborn Michigan. Due to an unfortunate tendency to have female children, I am the last of this Line. It's too bad, I can trace back to 1638. If there is a way to maneuver on here I would love to scan and post my pictures and stories. It may be of interest to Douglases in Massachusetts, Ohio and Michigan.
My G Grandfather was James Douglas (b1832-?). I think he was a carpenter. His first wife was Elisabeth MacDonald(b1830 - d1870); & they had 7 children ; Jane b1855; Margaret b1857; John b1860; James b1861-d1922;Alexander b1862; Sophia b1864; Robert b1867 . His second wife, my G Grandmother was Christina Fletcher (1843 -?). They had 3 children Janearina b1878, Justin b1881 & Edward Simpson b1885-d1956, my grandfather. He married my grandmother Helen Cameron & he was a professional golfer who migrated to New Zealand where he raised his family, 2 daughters Marie & Dorothy (my mother)
As I know very little about the Deacon William and his family, I am very eager to learn more. I am searching for his grandaughter Elizabeth Douglas who married Stephen Dewolfe, and then married Henry Rowland. I have found a chart that she died 1705 not possible as the same notation stated her Dewolfe children born 1706 and 1708, also another that she died 1747. I am at presently reading the histories of the villages of colonical Connecticut for any reference to the families.
Thank you so much for the invite and the chance to comment back and to start seeing where my ancestors go back to . Edgar Henry Douglas was born in Feb 1867 to Andrew Douglas and Adelia Breemean. Andrew Douglas was born in 25 Sept 1838 in Girvan, Ayrshire Scotland to James Douglas and Catherine Logan. James Douglas was born in 1806 in Girvan, Scotland. Catherine Logan was born in 1816 in County Iyr, Ireland. This is as far back as I have gotten. Perhaps others here might be able to help me trace further. Thanks so much! Amy
Hi William, I have requested to join the group you gave me the link to, on the list of questions that are asked before you are accepted is the question what do you call a ' father's father? I have no idea how to answer this. I said Grandad, but I got it wrong? I really don't understand the question. It is really vague.
William - One more clarification. I went back to look at the Georgia Douglases web page. I see they have a Joseph Douglas, son of Marshall. We knew him as "Joab", so this is indeed the same person. My wife's family is from this branch of the family (Joab's son Bart).
William - a clarification to my earlier note. George Washington Douglas's father, John, is the John Douglas (13) cited in the Georgia Douglases project. The nearly identical DNA sequence readout for my wife's brother to George's sequence would serve as strong confirmation that John Douglas (13) and Joseph Douglas (1), both born in NC and migrated to GA, were most likely brothers, along with William Douglas (8). I hope others will see this note and contribute. Again, thanks for your help in all of this.
William - thank you for the note. We are familiar with the Georgia Douglases project. The Joseph Douglas (1) listed is my wife's 3rd GrGrandfather. Currently believe Joseph Douglas (1) was brother to John & William. Have not found any proof yet of Joseph (1) having son named Joseph Douglas (2) as cited in Georgia Douglases project. No reference to Joseph (2) or heirs in Joseph (1) last will. My wife's brother's DNA analysis (Y-DNA37) show a R1a1a Group ID (Drumlanrig-Queensberry line), with an extremely close match to that of another Joseph Douglas b. 4 Apr1773 in Chester Co., SC / d. 16 Jun1845 in Meriwether Co., GA. George Washington Douglas (1790-1852) [John's son] was b. in NC and d. in Copiah, MS. is almost an identical match too. FYI - Joseph (1) did have an older unknown dau. who married John C. Hill (d. 1835) and had two children Miranda Ann Hill [Cribbs] & John Cummings Hill Jr. (1836-1868). She died prior to Joseph (1) death in 1843. Some believe John & Joseph (1), father was David Douglas (c1740-1822) who was the son of Wm. (1715-1773 ) & Mary Douglas(s). We are getting closer in our search thanks to the DNA analysis and leads from your Douglas Archives. Thanks for the help!
Thanks for your welcome. Am researching Andrew Douglas (s) from Ferryden who married Isabella Watson, and the line back from their. After Andrew, his son John Watson Douglas became a Master mariner and died on board the “Linda” on 9th August 1878 of African fever, his son Henry John was then put in to an orphanage inLiverpool by his mother Clarissa. He too went to sea and eventually ended up in Surrey, marrying Mary Willis (McVeigh) and had my great grandfather Horace.
My tree so far is available on ancestry on public view.
Thank you William for your signpost to Gilbert Douglas in Glenrassie. He could be the uncle of my William Douglas who was born in Penninghame in 1679. It's good to know of others interested in Penninghame and Minnigaff parishes and especially about Bob Henry. Thank you too for all the work you and others have put into the Douglas Archives - this has been a great launchpad for me in trying to make sense of my many Douglas DNA matches. It is the best site of its kind that I have come across.
Looking across my matches on Ancestry and those of a couple of Johnstone cousins, we have upwards of 60 or 70 Douglas in groups relating to a number of Douglas lines. The largest group of matches is formed by descendants of Gilbert Douglas through William Douglas in Barsalloch and Grishil McKeand - with the added complication that we also have matches with the descendants of their contemporary family in Midlothian of William Douglas in Dalhousie and Janet Witherspoon.
The next largest group relates to William Douglas (1610-1682) who lived in New London, Connecticut - which just goes to show how robust these Douglas genes are!
Matches with a descendant of Isabella Douglas (1723-1795, married Benjamin Fortner) that piqued my interest to look further into Douglas connections, as did Mary Douglas (1693-1726, married William Crawford). There are more, such as descendants of Domini Douglas (1732-1807) in Vermont, Clara and ClementinaDouglas of Dornock, and several Drumlanrig and Kelhead Douglas matches which I need to explore further.
I need to pull together some questions to pursue specific lines. Again, thank you William.
Thank you for your information. I have heard that thread. The only proof I have is that my 4th great grandfather John Douglas, Sr. ( Birth 18 MAR 1764 • Surry County, North Carolina, USA Death 1 JUN 1842 • Washington, Tennessee, USA) father was Alexander Douglass and his father was Alexander Douglass. I would like to link them with proof, to either England or Scotland or both. Thanks for replying, so sorry I took so long to reply
Below is the transcript of William Douglas's will (to the best of my ability - I highlighted the names mentioned for easy identification):
In the Name of God Amen. I William Douglass of Rowan County in the Provence of North Carolina being sick in body but thanks be to God being in perfect mind and memory do make and ordain this my last will and Testament. First I commit my soul to God who gave it me. And my body I recommend to the dust to be buried at the discretion of my Executors nothing doubting but at the last day it shall be raised again. And as touching my worldly affairs I leave and bequeath unto my lawfull and beloved wife Mary her livelihood? [illegible] the plantation and in the house I now live in during her natural life and my movable estate I allow? to be sold according to law which I leave to her except ten pounds which I leave to my daughter Elizabeth. Then I leave and bequeath unto my beloved sons David and Solomon the plantation I now live on to be divided equally between them, they paying and equal part of all expenses accruing on said land when the office will or may be opened. I also allow my son Solomon the end I now live on. I leave and bequeath unto my grandson John one year old horse colt [illegible] of my grey mare, and unto my grandson William I leave and bequeath one spring colt Sorrel’s? having a white mane and tail, and unto my grand-daughter Mary Traverse I leave a two year old heifer coulered red and white. Lastly I leave and bequeath to my beloved wife Mary all the money now due to my estate after all my lawfull debts is paid. Last of all I constitute and appoint my wife and my son Solomon to be the executors of this my last will and testament hereby disin?ling and making void all former wills and testaments as witnessed my hand and seal this 2 day of Sept. 1773 William x [his mark] Douglas [witnessed by] William Young, James Thomas?, John Oliphant"
The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.
Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?