Hi William. Im a member of this site and when I joined you had sent a comment regarding the black Douglas line and the Drysdales. More recently you had a discussion regarding Mary Drysdale and her line. I am a direct descendant of Mary Drysdale of the Vale of Devon, who is in tern a direct descendant of Thomas Douglas of the three brothers Thomas William and James Douglas. I haven't had any DNA testing however several of us descending from Edwin Haigh whose grandmother was Mary Drysdale, have been very interested in our heritage to include the Douglas/Drysdale. Now I have seen updates of the same document but that went to different family members and my most recent was reprinted for my gr gr grandfather Edwin Haig, reprinted in Apr. 1911. I have seen reprints more recent but not on our immediate family line. This document is one which is used to prove our lineage although I know and want to do DNA testing.
My father was Anthony John Douglas of Oxford 08/12/28, I did`nt know my grandfather but his name was John Douglas, middle name if he had one is not known at present, my father was born in Oxford and had 2/3 brothers and 2/3 sisters and he was the youngest, my grandfathers birth date and place of birth I do not know.
I have absolutely no idea who I belong to clan / line wise but have always wondered and want to know more of my bloodline as I am one of the last Douglas left in my family
Well I have the DNA results! They are posted kit # 241410 an I2b1 Haplogroup. Please look at it... I know very little about DNA. Can you tell from this if I have "Black Douglas Blood" in me?
Hi William thanks for accepting me and for the link. I have recently posted on rootschat so hoping someone can help me out there. Started working backwards and mapping the whole Douglas line from William Douglas, Lord of Douglas to hopefully make the connection. May take a while though.
hi, william.Thanks for accepting me.My family Tree Links to James Douglas of Scotland.I have a brother named Robert and my son's name is Arthur.Family names here in Fiji is linked to most of the douglas names in scotland.my grandfathers name is Edward Douglas and my greatgranfathers name is charles rudolf douglas and my greatgrandmother is lilian edith Mcconell.I would also be very glad to know if i have families linked to me who lives overseas.Looking foward to know more of my family tree/geneology if i am linked to any of the douglas families because i was born here in fiji with family bonds overseas and would be greatful to meet families online...
The furthest I have been able to trace back is to my great great grandfather Frederick Douglas. He was married to Harriet Hickton. I don't have any dates relating to him but I guess it would be 1870 Ish. They had a son Arthur Douglas March 28, 1900. Then my grandfather is Frederick Douglas born March 13, 1928. My grandfather and his Grandfather were all from Nottingham England. I'm not too sure where to go from here or where my family fits in this family tree. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you for the information that has been very helpful , and thank you for allowing me to become a member . Yes you are correct, it is the Douglas family from Dunbarton. and the link I am looking for is Archibald Douglas Bryce's Grandfather Archibald Douglas and his sister Janet Douglas. Who were their parents, did he have a title, where did they live?
Janet Douglas married Robert Hay on 1 Aug 1764 in New Kilpatrick Dunbarton. Does anyone know how he was ???
It seems Edward and James were relatives, probably brothers. Edward's will is disputed by Edward Ronald Douglas in India. I Think Edward was the uncle of ERD. Any idea where is Wynd in Glasgow?
I have found out that two of my grandfathers brothers, Edward archibald Ross douglas and james Donald douglas Came with the 15th hussars from India around 1903.
Also, I have traced my Family back to a John Douglas, who's Family Came from Clayslap and Tronbridge, Glasgow circa 1800. They were in the slate business. Any fellow douglas with slater pasts?
That website is for another researcher but also ends with Alexander and Margaret. I also found a 3rd cousin that also cannot get past the Alexander and Margaret. Anything you can help with would be great. I you want the files I have let me know. I think they are in my profile or blog.
at the moment my only knowledge of oldest family member is my grandfather. William Lynn Douglass born oct 18, 1929 in san francisco CA. His fathers name was frank douglass. i have a family member i can get ahold of for more information, but at the moment that as far as i know but i definetly will be looking into it.
Hi William. There's. So much unexplained from the history of the Douglas that I'm confused, thanks for the message. I'm alos trying to find more history as to how and what and where we do come from?
What I can tell you is that a group of Indian officers moved to place called ofcolaco, near Tzaneen, where they established Citrus farms, after WW1. Herbert Douglas was part of this move.
Sorry. I guess I got boxed out of that lengthy comment below. Suffice it to say, my daughter learned that she obviously sports far more "Scottish heritage" in her genetic markers than she ever did from my Irish clan. She is very proud of this, too. And since she will deliver her first child this spring, I am doubly interested in pushing this research forward.
I welcome any comments, suggestions, or companions on this journey.
William, incredulous as it sounds, I have reasons to believe it is true, or at least close to true, that John L. Drysdale lived to the age of 126. you will not find him on anyone's list, however. I have tried, and am now wondering why not.
In fact, this man is the very reason, if truth be known, that I have joined this clan group. Although not a Drysdale by blood - in fact, it is my EX husband who carries that name, I have been researching family history/genealogy for our daughter for 5 years now, and this old fellow, John L. Drysdale, my daughter's 3rd great grandfather, is my dead-end as well as the greatest enigma in a family tree that now encompasses over 7,000 individuals.
My daughter, who always identified with the Irish side (from my Chicago-based O'Brien family), had no idea, until doing a high schol research project on the various "Celtic" influences in early American history and thus attending her first Highland Games festival in Jacksonville, FL, that the Drysdales were a sept of Clan Douglas. So I am hoping that someone here may be able to send me off in the right direction.
As for old John, I know when he died (1922) and where (and will be visiting West Virginia at the end of Feb to check out some things), and our US census documents for 1900, 1910 and 1920 all consistently identify his age. Typically, according to those who reserach and validate other supercentenarians, when one is fabricating dates or is unsure, those dates change frequently. That is not the case with our Drysdale progenitor. He was very "sharp" until the end of his life, walking daily and swimming regularly, paying attenton to news and politics and taking pride in voting, even though he was in his 70s when he emigrated from Canada to the US. He is one of those "not unheard of" extreme elderly to have had his eyesight restore itself and to have "cut a third set of teeth" - in his case around the age of 100. I have also learned that the tendency to cut these "supernumerary" teeth is hereditary, as is the tendency towards extreme longevity. So I am hoping these bioological facts may also help someone identify possible connections to Mr. Drysdale's origins in the Galloway area circa 1796.
Supposedly, too, he ran away at age 7, stowed aborad ship and arrived in New York (abt 1804-05). He was, of course, sent "home," but I don't know where that is. He married at age 15 (circa 1811), had a son (name unknown), and he buried his first wife (also unknown) in Scotland when he was 16 years old. He then "went to sea for 35 years."
I am wondering if the phrase "did duty for 20 years" implies he was a seaman in the Royal Navy and then continued as a mercahnt sailor for another 15 years? Apparently he participated in a whaling voyage to Greenland and was a member of Capt. Sir John Franklin's second (mostly overland) expedition to explore and chart the Arctic Coast of Canada and hopefully (finally) find the Northwest Passage. That would have been 1825-27, so I have to assume he would have done so as an able-bodied seaman, though this could be an erroneous assumption on my part. His name does not appear in Franklin's own published account of this journey (a best-seller in 1828), but then, as an "ordinary" seaman, the officers and "gentlemen" greatly discounted the personhood of those who helped keep them alive.
I am trying to locate a mustert list for this expedition. Much is known about Franklin's tragic final "lost" journey in 1845. I have seen those lists and John Drysdale is not among them. Not that it would have made any sense for him to have been there anyway, unless he walked out of the Arctic alone and never revealed his story to anyone.
So I have MUCH to verify in my search for old Mr. Drysdale. His life is intriguiing, and he is the key to my daughter's connectig back to her origianl Scottish ancestors. When she visited Scotland 6 years ago, she suddently realized that he
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'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?
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Hi William. Im a member of this site and when I joined you had sent a comment regarding the black Douglas line and the Drysdales. More recently you had a discussion regarding Mary Drysdale and her line. I am a direct descendant of Mary Drysdale of the Vale of Devon, who is in tern a direct descendant of Thomas Douglas of the three brothers Thomas William and James Douglas. I haven't had any DNA testing however several of us descending from Edwin Haigh whose grandmother was Mary Drysdale, have been very interested in our heritage to include the Douglas/Drysdale. Now I have seen updates of the same document but that went to different family members and my most recent was reprinted for my gr gr grandfather Edwin Haig, reprinted in Apr. 1911. I have seen reprints more recent but not on our immediate family line. This document is one which is used to prove our lineage although I know and want to do DNA testing.
My father was Anthony John Douglas of Oxford 08/12/28, I did`nt know my grandfather but his name was John Douglas, middle name if he had one is not known at present, my father was born in Oxford and had 2/3 brothers and 2/3 sisters and he was the youngest, my grandfathers birth date and place of birth I do not know.
Steve
I have absolutely no idea who I belong to clan / line wise but have always wondered and want to know more of my bloodline as I am one of the last Douglas left in my family
steve
Hi William Douglas,
Well I have the DNA results! They are posted kit # 241410 an I2b1 Haplogroup. Please look at it... I know very little about DNA. Can you tell from this if I have "Black Douglas Blood" in me?
Douglas Sean Roe
Hi William thanks for accepting me and for the link. I have recently posted on rootschat so hoping someone can help me out there. Started working backwards and mapping the whole Douglas line from William Douglas, Lord of Douglas to hopefully make the connection. May take a while though.
Thomas Douglass New Fairfeild Conn. Born around 1750 son Ebenezer
hi, william.Thanks for accepting me.My family Tree Links to James Douglas of Scotland.I have a brother named Robert and my son's name is Arthur.Family names here in Fiji is linked to most of the douglas names in scotland.my grandfathers name is Edward Douglas and my greatgranfathers name is charles rudolf douglas and my greatgrandmother is lilian edith Mcconell.I would also be very glad to know if i have families linked to me who lives overseas.Looking foward to know more of my family tree/geneology if i am linked to any of the douglas families because i was born here in fiji with family bonds overseas and would be greatful to meet families online...
Thank you for the information that has been very helpful , and thank you for allowing me to become a member . Yes you are correct, it is the Douglas family from Dunbarton. and the link I am looking for is Archibald Douglas Bryce's Grandfather Archibald Douglas and his sister Janet Douglas. Who were their parents, did he have a title, where did they live?
Janet Douglas married Robert Hay on 1 Aug 1764 in New Kilpatrick Dunbarton. Does anyone know how he was ???
Also, I have traced my Family back to a John Douglas, who's Family Came from Clayslap and Tronbridge, Glasgow circa 1800. They were in the slate business. Any fellow douglas with slater pasts?
That website is for another researcher but also ends with Alexander and Margaret. I also found a 3rd cousin that also cannot get past the Alexander and Margaret. Anything you can help with would be great. I you want the files I have let me know. I think they are in my profile or blog.
at the moment my only knowledge of oldest family member is my grandfather. William Lynn Douglass born oct 18, 1929 in san francisco CA. His fathers name was frank douglass. i have a family member i can get ahold of for more information, but at the moment that as far as i know but i definetly will be looking into it.
I have little info to go on as I was adopted.....i will have to obtain more info first re birth/marriage certs
Thanks for adding me
I guess I should also repost this to the Drysdale group.
Sorry. I guess I got boxed out of that lengthy comment below. Suffice it to say, my daughter learned that she obviously sports far more "Scottish heritage" in her genetic markers than she ever did from my Irish clan. She is very proud of this, too. And since she will deliver her first child this spring, I am doubly interested in pushing this research forward.
I welcome any comments, suggestions, or companions on this journey.
Best wishes to all,
Kate
William, incredulous as it sounds, I have reasons to believe it is true, or at least close to true, that John L. Drysdale lived to the age of 126. you will not find him on anyone's list, however. I have tried, and am now wondering why not.
In fact, this man is the very reason, if truth be known, that I have joined this clan group. Although not a Drysdale by blood - in fact, it is my EX husband who carries that name, I have been researching family history/genealogy for our daughter for 5 years now, and this old fellow, John L. Drysdale, my daughter's 3rd great grandfather, is my dead-end as well as the greatest enigma in a family tree that now encompasses over 7,000 individuals.
My daughter, who always identified with the Irish side (from my Chicago-based O'Brien family), had no idea, until doing a high schol research project on the various "Celtic" influences in early American history and thus attending her first Highland Games festival in Jacksonville, FL, that the Drysdales were a sept of Clan Douglas. So I am hoping that someone here may be able to send me off in the right direction.
As for old John, I know when he died (1922) and where (and will be visiting West Virginia at the end of Feb to check out some things), and our US census documents for 1900, 1910 and 1920 all consistently identify his age. Typically, according to those who reserach and validate other supercentenarians, when one is fabricating dates or is unsure, those dates change frequently. That is not the case with our Drysdale progenitor. He was very "sharp" until the end of his life, walking daily and swimming regularly, paying attenton to news and politics and taking pride in voting, even though he was in his 70s when he emigrated from Canada to the US. He is one of those "not unheard of" extreme elderly to have had his eyesight restore itself and to have "cut a third set of teeth" - in his case around the age of 100. I have also learned that the tendency to cut these "supernumerary" teeth is hereditary, as is the tendency towards extreme longevity. So I am hoping these bioological facts may also help someone identify possible connections to Mr. Drysdale's origins in the Galloway area circa 1796.
Supposedly, too, he ran away at age 7, stowed aborad ship and arrived in New York (abt 1804-05). He was, of course, sent "home," but I don't know where that is. He married at age 15 (circa 1811), had a son (name unknown), and he buried his first wife (also unknown) in Scotland when he was 16 years old. He then "went to sea for 35 years."
I am wondering if the phrase "did duty for 20 years" implies he was a seaman in the Royal Navy and then continued as a mercahnt sailor for another 15 years? Apparently he participated in a whaling voyage to Greenland and was a member of Capt. Sir John Franklin's second (mostly overland) expedition to explore and chart the Arctic Coast of Canada and hopefully (finally) find the Northwest Passage. That would have been 1825-27, so I have to assume he would have done so as an able-bodied seaman, though this could be an erroneous assumption on my part. His name does not appear in Franklin's own published account of this journey (a best-seller in 1828), but then, as an "ordinary" seaman, the officers and "gentlemen" greatly discounted the personhood of those who helped keep them alive.
I am trying to locate a mustert list for this expedition. Much is known about Franklin's tragic final "lost" journey in 1845. I have seen those lists and John Drysdale is not among them. Not that it would have made any sense for him to have been there anyway, unless he walked out of the Arctic alone and never revealed his story to anyone.
So I have MUCH to verify in my search for old Mr. Drysdale. His life is intriguiing, and he is the key to my daughter's connectig back to her origianl Scottish ancestors. When she visited Scotland 6 years ago, she suddently realized that he
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'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
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