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Comment by Ronald Drysdale on Monday

Hi Susanne,

I'm glad you're making progress.

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Comment by Susanne Douglas on Monday

Hi Ron and William, just letting you know. Found my link through Martha Dawson and James Douglas

William Douglas of Dornock

Birth ABT 1634 • St Mungo, Dumfries-shire, Scotland

Death 27 JUL 1715 • St Mungo, Dumfries-shire, Scotland

Comment by Ronald Drysdale on October 16, 2025 at 13:00

Hi Susanne,

That's a difficult question so I thought I would ask Google AI:

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"Migration of douglas families to ireland, dublin and monaghan

The migration of Douglas families to Ireland, including Dublin and Monaghan, is primarily tied to the 17th-century Plantation of Ulster and subsequent waves of Scottish settlement. While many settled in the province of Ulster, their influence and migration extended to Dublin and other parts of Ireland over subsequent centuries.

Migration via the Plantation of Ulster
Initial settlement: The main catalyst for Scottish settlement in Ireland was the Plantation of Ulster, a large-scale colonization project initiated by the English Crown in the early 1600s. The goal was to confiscate land from Gaelic Irish chieftains and resettle it with Protestant English and Scottish "planters" to suppress rebellion.

Douglas undertakers: Members of the powerful Scottish Douglas family were among the "undertakers" - landowners who received large grants of land in exchange for settling it with British Protestants. George Douglas of Shiel, James Douglas of Clappertoun, and William Douglas of Pumpherston were involved in developing private plantations in the early 17th century.

Settlement locations: Many Scots, including Douglases, settled in the northern counties of Ulster, such as Armagh, Down, and Cavan. For example, Douglas families are well-documented in Lurgan, County Armagh, and the Blacker-Douglass family were established in County Down.

Expansion into Dublin and Monaghan
While most Douglas families initially planted in Ulster, migration patterns extended their presence southward.

Monaghan: Proximity to Ulster: As a border county with strong historical connections to Ulster, Monaghan would have naturally been a destination for migrating Douglas families, particularly during the Plantation.

Landowners in Muckno: By the mid-19th century, Douglas family members were established landowners in County Monaghan, specifically in the parish of Muckno. Records show that John and Henry Douglas were immediate lessors of land there.

Keady connections: John Douglas of Keady, who held land in Monaghan in 1876, is another documented example of the family's presence in the area.

Dublin - Administrative center: Dublin was the administrative hub of Ireland, drawing people from all over the country. Many Scots-Irish families, including some Douglases, likely moved to the capital for opportunities in commerce, education, and administration.

Early connections: There are early connections linking Scots-Irish to Dublin. For instance, James Hamilton, one of the leading Scottish settlers in County Down, had started his career in Dublin in 1587.

Professional opportunities: By the 19th century, members of the Douglas family were prominent in Dublin's professional life. Dr. John Cuppage Douglas, born in County Armagh, was associated with the School of Midwifery in Dublin in the early 1800s.

Tracing Douglas family records: Researching Douglas families in Ireland can be challenging due to the destruction of many historical records. Useful resources for researching specific family trees include:

The Douglas Archives has compiled articles and downloads on Irish Douglas families, including specific branches and those involved in the Plantation.

The Ulster Historical Foundation provides information on the Plantation of Ulster and the Scottish settlers involved."

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Also this page gives similar infornation:

 https://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/articles/plantation_of_uls...

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Comment by Susanne Douglas on October 16, 2025 at 1:00

thank you Ron.  How could they obtain land. Was George related to someone of importance in Scotland?

Comment by Ronald Drysdale on October 15, 2025 at 19:07

Here's another one - a baptism in 1739! But in Dublin.

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Comment by Ronald Drysdale on October 15, 2025 at 17:57

Hi Susanne,

I found a few references to 'George Douglas' in Monaghan, in the time period you indicate, but I couldn't find any birth, marriage or death records that would identify him specifically. see attached

County Monaghan. Valuation Records 1837
Donaghmore. Land Records 1828
Donagh. Land Records 1832
Ireland. Will Indexes 1846 1847
Ireland. Will Indexes 1811 1858
Transcripts of memorials of deeds, conveyances and wills County Mon...
Transcripts of memorials of deeds, etc land records 1739 1820
Transcripts of memorials of deeds, etc land records 1739 1820
Transcripts of memorials of deeds, etc land transfers 1739 1820

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Comment by Ronald Drysdale on October 15, 2025 at 2:53

Hi Susanne,

I'm a little bit confused as to which George Dugless we're talking about, do you want me to try and find him?

Best regards

Ron