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Hi

I wonder if anyone has had a DNA test done. FamilytreeDNA have Douglas listed as one of their projects.

As I am stuck with my Douglas line it might be worthwhile

Bob

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Hi Bob

Just how and where are you stuck with your Douglas Line.  if you wanted to contact me, I might be able to help but can't guarantee success but am willing to give it a go.  No, as yet I have not had a DNA test done as I know everything on my father's side and would only do a test as nothing is known on my mother's side.  helen

Hi Helen

Have looked for a long time

James Douglass my 4x great grandfather, was born about 1730-1735. The earliest record of home is an apprenticeship record of 10th Oct 1747, James son of John apprenticed to Richard Stedman, clockmaker of Godalming Surrey for 7 years for GBP21.

He is next heard of at his marriage in 1761 in Godalming, when he is resident in Chertsey, where he remains

I have never managed to make any connection with any of the possible births. Family legend was that we came from Scotland.

Hi Bob

Sorry not to get back sooner.  Having searched various sites concerning 'Douglas' clock and watchmakers in Scotland, it is entirely feasible that your family origins could well be Scottish.  Many Douglas clock makers  worked and lived in and around Jedburgh and could have descended from the Douglases Bonjedward/Hemmingford Abbots/Timpindene, but personal information on that branch of my family is incomplete with some 300 years missing 1479 - 1780,  so I was not able to make any connections with the clock making Douglases, either in Jedburgh or Godalming  - sorry.  If you have not tried looking in this area perhaps it could be worth pursuing - John Douglas clock maker, Jedburgh -  lists various names - who knows where it could lead.  

I am sure as you know Douglases originated in Scotland in the 12th century.  I am fortunate enough to have an extensive (although not entirely complete) family history with a direct line back to the first Douglas and and its many branches.  Whilst I did read your family history biog.with great interest, I think it would take forever to complete something similar myself, especially when the family on my father's side only presently covers at least 130 A4 pages. Trying to create a family history on my mother's side is not going to be easy as her mother was not married.

Anyway I wish you every success with your search and would be interested to know how you get on.

Regards

Helen

I beleive I have looked at this in the past.

The trouble is whatever  I do I come up with  one or more plausible possibilities, but can never any extra proof to any of the possible lines

Bob,

The Douglas project on FTDna may help you, there are also geographical projects, such as Border Reivers which are good. If you decide to go along this route, my advice would be to spend as much as you feel is affordable on the test, at least the 67 marker test is a pretty good base point. Bear in mind that what you find out is to some extent dependent on the right people i.e. those who are closely related to you, having also tested.

Don't expect your results to suddenly write a thousand years of family history, but you will enter into an absolutely fascinating sphere, which I personally think is well worth the investment.

BTW if you join the Douglas project first, you can get your test at discounted rate. (Read my blog on Dna tests here before you go to the post office!).

Regards

Nigel

Nigel

I read your response to Bob with interest and checked out the Douglas project on FTDna found the content useful and somewhat confusing,so I was wondering is this test only for Douglas men or is there a similar one for Douglas women and if so where can the site be found.

Regards

Helen 

Helen

Even though I am not fully conversant with all the facts about DNA tests, it is clear that this relates to tests made from the Y chromosome, men have an X and a Y, women have two X chromosomes. However women can have the test done via a male relative on the same male line of descent. This could be a brother, father or uncle on the paternal side

Bob

Helen,

Bobs advice is sound regarding a male relative testing Y Dna. FTDna will also test mitochondrial Dna, which is passed down the female line, which may be of some help to you regarding that side.

I also tested on their Family Finder, which looks at autosomal Dna, but found it a little frustrating. It is only really good for 5 generations and threw up a lot of cousins in the US and New Zealand, but again you rely on other people having populated their tree fully, to match surnames.

FTDna have very good explanatory sections on their site, which I recommend that you read. It looks a bit overwhelming when you start, a year ago I didn't know a short tandem repeat from a single nucleotide polymorphism, but will all become clear I'm sure.

Regards

Nigel

Hi Nigel  if any of those Douglas DNA matches in NZ were Robert Douglas , Stoddard , Gore, Barton , Donnaldson , Burgess, KC do let me know please , as this is myself and my 2nd cousins
we are descended from the Glenbervie Earls of Angus

regards Jackie Stoddard

Hi Bob if you have a GEDMATCH.com number please send it to me I can compare us I have pages of Douglas DNA matches on ancestry.com and on Familytreedna.com 

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Making conections

The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.

Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.

Professions also help.

'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?


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