DNA tests

[Bob Douglas]

Hi

I wonder if anyone has had a DNA test done. FamilytreeDNA have Douglas listed as one of their projects.

As I am stuck with my Douglas line it might be worthwhile

Bob

[William Douglas]

http://douglashistory.ning.com/group/douglasdna for more information

[helen lorenz]

Hi Bob

Just how and where are you stuck with your Douglas Line.  if you wanted to contact me, I might be able to help but can't guarantee success but am willing to give it a go.  No, as yet I have not had a DNA test done as I know everything on my father's side and would only do a test as nothing is known on my mother's side.  helen

[Bob Douglas]

Hi Helen

Have looked for a long time

James Douglass my 4x great grandfather, was born about 1730-1735. The earliest record of home is an apprenticeship record of 10th Oct 1747, James son of John apprenticed to Richard Stedman, clockmaker of Godalming Surrey for 7 years for GBP21.

He is next heard of at his marriage in 1761 in Godalming, when he is resident in Chertsey, where he remains

I have never managed to make any connection with any of the possible births. Family legend was that we came from Scotland.

[helen lorenz]

Hi Bob

Sorry not to get back sooner.  Having searched various sites concerning 'Douglas' clock and watchmakers in Scotland, it is entirely feasible that your family origins could well be Scottish.  Many Douglas clock makers  worked and lived in and around Jedburgh and could have descended from the Douglases Bonjedward/Hemmingford Abbots/Timpindene, but personal information on that branch of my family is incomplete with some 300 years missing 1479 - 1780,  so I was not able to make any connections with the clock making Douglases, either in Jedburgh or Godalming  - sorry.  If you have not tried looking in this area perhaps it could be worth pursuing - John Douglas clock maker, Jedburgh -  lists various names - who knows where it could lead.  

I am sure as you know Douglases originated in Scotland in the 12th century.  I am fortunate enough to have an extensive (although not entirely complete) family history with a direct line back to the first Douglas and and its many branches.  Whilst I did read your family history biog.with great interest, I think it would take forever to complete something similar myself, especially when the family on my father's side only presently covers at least 130 A4 pages. Trying to create a family history on my mother's side is not going to be easy as her mother was not married.

Anyway I wish you every success with your search and would be interested to know how you get on.

Regards

Helen

[William Douglas]

Did you have a look here?  http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/Businesses/clock_and_watch_...

[Bob Douglas]

I beleive I have looked at this in the past.

The trouble is whatever  I do I come up with  one or more plausible possibilities, but can never any extra proof to any of the possible lines

[helen lorenz]

Nigel

I read your response to Bob with interest and checked out the Douglas project on FTDna found the content useful and somewhat confusing,so I was wondering is this test only for Douglas men or is there a similar one for Douglas women and if so where can the site be found.

Regards

Helen 

[Bob Douglas]

Helen

Even though I am not fully conversant with all the facts about DNA tests, it is clear that this relates to tests made from the Y chromosome, men have an X and a Y, women have two X chromosomes. However women can have the test done via a male relative on the same male line of descent. This could be a brother, father or uncle on the paternal side

Bob

[Jackie Stoddard]

Hi Nigel  if any of those Douglas DNA matches in NZ were Robert Douglas , Stoddard , Gore, Barton , Donnaldson , Burgess, KC do let me know please , as this is myself and my 2nd cousins
we are descended from the Glenbervie Earls of Angus

regards Jackie Stoddard

[Jackie Stoddard]

Hi Bob if you have a GEDMATCH.com number please send it to me I can compare us I have pages of Douglas DNA matches on ancestry.com and on Familytreedna.com 

[Jackie Stoddard]

Yes Rb1 RM269 on my Paternal side (which also has Douglas and Sinclair , Stewart) A rare subclade , is being tested for now as we are Oliphant rather than Stoddard on my uncle William Leslie Stoddard Ydna results, requested by the Sinclair DNA project that we get the SNP pack , (the Comptons have the same rare Subclade) so I'm hoping these results will help solve the mystery around Oliphant (of 38 YDNA matches there were 18 Oliphant and no Stoddard!?)
NOTE: the was a Elizabeth OLIPHANT married DOUGLAS (earl of Angus
Oliphant can be many different surnames , as they were Landed gentry (is that best what to say William? when talking of Families with many surnames in a line?)

on my paternal , It appears I have Earls of Angus and Sinclair too along with royal Stewart ; so it all gets very confusing maybe Leslie and Morton (= Martin / Morgan ) also

so I could match numerous lines of Douglas and Douglass! ( not sure exactly where the paternal ones start in our tree yet though

unfortunately our last living Maternal Douglas was Margaret Douglas M Tower (royal Stewart descendants down from there)

Margaret DOUGLASS DOUGLAS 1739–1772

BIRTH 2 JUN 1739 • Midmar, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

DEATH 27 AUG 1772 • Aberdeenshire, Scotland
her parents 

• John DOUGLAS   1708–   (could be wrong)

• Agnes DONALD   1710–   (could be wrong)