Douglas families in Ireland

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Comment by William Douglas on April 26, 2012 at 13:16

The Douglas Clan has not disappeared!

You can read about the head of the clan (or lack of)  here: http://douglashistory.ning.com/profiles/blogs/head-of-the-clan-a-de...

Comment by William Douglas on April 26, 2012 at 13:09

I do not think that Frederick Douglas had any known Irish ancestors? (This is an Irish forum).

You can read about him here: http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/frederickdouglass.htm 

Although one branch of the Douglas family are 'Black Douglases', this does not refer to skin colour, just as the 'Red Douglas' branch are not red.

Comment by William Douglas on April 26, 2012 at 13:03

Fred,

Welcome to our group.

I am not sure which William Douglass , or Douglas, you are referring to, but there is no historical difference between one and two 'esses'.  Names were often written down by official recorders who did not know whether there should be one or two, and once people learned how to read and write, they adopted whatever had been written. This older Douglass families may have used Douglas.

Yours aye,

William

Comment by Fred Keith Douglass on April 26, 2012 at 7:46

I am not sure, but Frederick Douglass was a black man.  Do we have a lot of ancesters that were Black?

Comment by Fred Keith Douglass on April 26, 2012 at 7:42

William Douglass has 2 esses in his name . Why do many archives only show 1 ess?

Comment by Fred Keith Douglass on April 26, 2012 at 7:41

What Happened to the Douglass clan and why does it seam we dissapeared?

Comment by William Douglas on January 13, 2012 at 18:59

Ireland's Military Archives have been made available online for the first time. By March it plans to publish the Bureau of Military History Collection 1913 to 1921.

The Archives, which are held in Cathal Brugha Barracks in Rathmines in Dublin, can now be accessed via a new website - militaryarchives.ie. A quick visit to the site did not imediaely make it clear how one is supposed to search the site, but perhaps that will become clearer in March.

The site has been launched in conjunction with the National Archives of Ireland, and is designed to appeal to historians, genealogists and members of the public researching their family tree.

By March, it plans to publish the Bureau of Military History Collection 1913 to 1921, online, including 36,000 pages of witness statements, digitised and fully word searchable.

This will be followed by the first release of the Military Service Pensions Project - material which the Defence Forces say "will provide a major and never before seen insight into the 1916 Rising and the War of Independence in particluar".

Many researchers confuse the Military Archives as a place of deposit for the records of all Irish people who have served in other armed forces. In fact, the Military Archives holds only the personnel records of those who served in the military of the Irish Free State from 1922 to the late 1970's, as well as material pertaining to the Irish Volunteers and the Independence movement, 1913-1921. Information about British Army records, including those for the Irish regiments, can be obtained at The National Archives of England at Kew in London.

Comment by William Douglas on January 12, 2012 at 21:12

Re: James C. Whyte Douglas 

I have just received the following information:

Pour une association généalogique en Bretagne, je suis en train d'étudier l'ouvrage du pasteur E.W.L. DAVIES "Wolf-hunting and wild sport in lower Britanny". Dans ce livre apparaît un nommé "Shafto" qui est en fait James-Charles WHYTE DOUGLAS. Voici sa généalogie :
- James-Charles WHYTE DOUGLAS
°29/11/1819 Cluden Bank, Holywood, Dumfries (Scotland)
son of Thomas WHYTE (+12/5/1861) and Emily-Olivia DOUGLAS (+6/2/1838).
He lived in Laz (Finistère, Britanny, France)
He died 3/4/1885 at Huelgoat (Finistère, Britanny, France)
He married 31/8/1885 at Belle-Isle-en-Terre (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France)
with
- Mathurine MOY (not MOYA)°8/3/1825 at Langast (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France), daughter of Julien MOY and Françoise GROSVALET.
They have got 2 children :
- George-Marie MOY DOUGLAS (sic) °12/11/1849 at Plouguenast (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France)
- Helène-Rosalie-Marie WHYTE DOUGLAS °4/9/1851 at Plouguenast (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France), she married 20/2/1875 )at Belle-Isle-en-Terre (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France)with Nathaniel KEMP.

Comment by William Douglas on August 31, 2011 at 9:30

There is a brief reference in "The geographical distribution of Irish ability" to a George Alexander Douglas from Roscommon, Ireland, who held a high offical appointment in Kingston, Jamaica. It does not say when he arrived there, how long he was there or if he and any of his family died out there which is what I am trying to find out.

GAD was the father ofMajor General Henry Edward Manning DouglasVC, CB, CMG, DSO (11 July 1875–14 February 1939), a recipient of the Victoria Cross, the highest and most prestigious award for gallantry in the face of the enemy that can be awarded to British and Commonwealth forces. 

 

Does anyone have these in their family tree?

Comment by William Douglas on July 27, 2011 at 19:34

I have just been looking at the excellent website The Connacht and Munster Landed Estates, and come across this entry:

The Nicholsons received grants of land in Sligo under the Acts of Settlement and one of them became High Sherrif of Sligo in 1671. In 1675 Edward Nicholson, described as of Cummin or Knocknaray, served as High Sheriff of Leitrim. The Nicholson estate extended in to the Barony of Leyny, covering part of the parish of Achonry. This estate was sold in the Landed Estates court in 1876 on behalf of Agnes Mary Nicholason, an infant. McTernan states that the Gethin family were the purchasers and they in turn leased it to several other parties. There were also legal proceedings within the family due to loans and mortgages. Two granddaughters of James Nicholson (d.1810), Emily and Harriett Douglas, were married to Adam Mossman and Thomas White, who also held land in Sligo. Adam Mossman was a Liverpool merchant. Various members of the Mossman family, who were married into the Nicholason family, held c.1000 acres in County Sligo in 1876. In November 1865 James C. Whyte Douglas offered lands at Luffertan, Woodpark and fishing rights at Culleenduff for sale in the Landed Estates Court. The original leases were between James Nicholson and the Earl of Erne's estate. George W. Douglas was still the owner of 70 acres at Culleenduff, in the 1870s.

Can anyone identify these Douglases?

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