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"Thank you! I have Bob's book on the descendants of Tom and Phoebe Douglas but I didn't know about his more recent manuscript. I'll follow up with Bob about that resource!"
"Hi William,
Regarding your post on 31.5.25 "Continuing the search for the Douglas family in Westminster"
I think I know where the apparent 'Westminster' problem lies.
It seems that past researchers have made a wrong…"
"Marriage of Joseph Duglas to Ann Nicholson on 23rd January 1786 at St George's church, Hanover Square, the parish church of Mayfair - within the City of Westminster.
James Douglas the great Grandfather of Joseph Douglas (most probably)…"
"Continuing the search for the Douglas family in Westminster, London, I find in the excellent Douglases of Georgia website:https://georgiadouglases.wixsite.com/genealogy/robert-douglas ;"
"Ann Nicholson baptism 1757 in St Giles, Cripplegate, london - Family Search record
Best regards"
"Hi Simone & welcome to the Douglas Archives.
I see that you are interested in possible ancestors of:
Joseph Douglass (1752-1816) of Westminster, Middlesex m Ann Nicholson (1750 - 1815)
I checked out the Familysearch website and your…"
"In addition to the list of books in the recent Douglas Archives newsletter, I also have on my list:
Book: The family of Thomas and Phoebe Douglas, compiled by Bob Douglas, Kendenup, Western Australia, 2011;
Manuscripts: The Descendants of John…"
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- Joseph Douglass (1752-1816) of Westminster, Middlesex m Ann Nicholson (1750 - 1815)
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- At 15:26 on June 1, 2025,
Ronald Drysdale said…
Hi William,
Regarding your post on 31.5.25 "Continuing the search for the Douglas family in Westminster"
I think I know where the apparent 'Westminster' problem lies.
It seems that past researchers have made a wrong assumption when looking at the ancestors of
Joseph Douglas, including those who have contributed to the Douglas Archives Genealogy pages
on this site.The problem arises from the fact that there were two John Douglases born around the same time in
London (1729 & 1731) and they both had 'James Douglas and Mary' as parents. One Douglas family lived in the city of Westminster and the other in the city of London:.......The City of Westminster and the City of London are distinct areas within London, each with its
own unique characteristics. The City of London is the historic financial center, known as
"the Square Mile," while Westminster is the political and cultural center.....The fact that these were two separate families from separate areas of London is best illustrated
in the images below:'Westminster' Douglases:
'City of London' Douglases:
Of interest here is the John Douglas, born 1729 at St Giles without Cripplegate, who was the father of Joseph Douglas baptised in 1752 at St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England
Best regards
- At 19:43 on May 31, 2025,
Marriage of Joseph Duglas to Ann Nicholson on 23rd January 1786 at St George's church, Hanover Square, the parish church of Mayfair - within the City of Westminster.
James Douglas the great Grandfather of Joseph Douglas (most probably) was a Mariner living in Wapping.
Best regards
- At 18:53 on May 31, 2025,
William Douglas said…
Continuing the search for the Douglas family in Westminster, London, I find in the excellent Douglases of Georgia website:
https://georgiadouglases.wixsite.com/genealogy/robert-douglas
- At 1:05 on May 31, 2025,
- At 21:16 on May 30, 2025,
Hi Simone & welcome to the Douglas Archives.
I see that you are interested in possible ancestors of:
Joseph Douglass (1752-1816) of Westminster, Middlesex m Ann Nicholson (1750 - 1815)
I checked out the Familysearch website and your relative has a fairly well developed family tree there, with quite a few source references:
e.g. Joseph's birth record from 1752:
I tidied up the tree a bit and it seems that Joseph's ancestry can possibly be traced back to around the mid 1500s in London - I didn't try to go any further.
If you want to check out his info on Familysearch his unique ID is MMVL-7VL
Best regards
Ron
- At 20:11 on May 30, 2025,
In addition to the list of books in the recent Douglas Archives newsletter, I also have on my list:
- Book: The family of Thomas and Phoebe Douglas, compiled by Bob Douglas, Kendenup, Western Australia, 2011;
- Manuscripts: The Descendants of John George Douglass, with additions to 2023, by Bob Douglas, Albany Western Australia.
I have a note that John George Douglass, or Duglas, may be the father of Joseph, b1752. These books apparently document the family - or some of them.
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