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Confusing press reports - Douglas of Garvald

The two reports from March 1784 on the marriage of daughters of Lewis Douglas of Garvald need some explaining...!

1. Scots Magazine:

2.  Edinburgh Advertiser:

Tuesday last was 2nd March 1784.

I have the following note from 'A history of the Society of Writers to Her Majesty's Signet' :

FRASER, SIMON, of Ford. 19th December 1767.
Apprentice to, and eldest son of, William Fraser of Ford, W.S. — Died 25th September 1819. Mar. 2d March 1784, Janet Cruickshank, daughter of Captain Charles Douglas of Cliftonhall, Philadelphia.

Is that Philadelphia USA?

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Comment by William Douglas on June 26, 2024 at 20:10

Is this man linked to the Douglas of Garvald family?

C. W. P. Douglas de Fenzi (18 June 1863 – 18 June 1927) was Clerk to the Legislative Council of Natal. He also served as Secretary on a number of Government Commissions in Natal, including Secretary of the Natal Reception Committee on the visit of the Duke and Duchess of Cornwall in 1901, was instrumental in the development of South African Rugby Union, and played a prominent role in freemasonry in Natal serving as Grand Deacon and District Grand Secretary.

Douglas de Fenzi came to South Africa in 1881 intending to pursue a career in Government Service but, on arrival, decided to pursue a career in journalism

Charles William Perks Douglas de Fenzi was born in South Africa on 18 June 1863, the son of John Douglas de Fenzi and Sarah (née Perks), and baptised on 29 August 1863 at the Military Chapel, Keiskama Hoek. He was educated in England at Bedford Modern School between 1872 and 1881.The rationale is that Caroline Sidney Douglas married Vincenzo Fenzi in Tuscany in 1826, and may have had a child, Giovonni Oraze Alfredo Douglas Fenzi, in Garvald the following year.

Edited:

John Douglas de Fenzi was a Captain in the British German Legion

2nd Edit:
See here: https://douglashistory.ning.com/profiles/blogs/douglas-de-fenzi

Comment by William Douglas on November 4, 2019 at 17:04

Yes, it is Philadelphia USA.

But it was not Charles Douglas, it was Charles Cruikshank.

Source: Memoir of John Ross, Merchant, of Philadelphia, p77

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Comment by William Douglas on November 2, 2019 at 21:32

Simon Fraser, 2nd of Ford, born 1742, Married at Jeanfield on 2nd March 1784, Janet, daughter of Lewis Douglas of Garvald. (http://redbookofscotland.co.uk/fraser-of-ford

Their son Simon, 3rd of Ford, was appointed tutor and factor to his maternal uncle, William Douglas of Garvald, who was certified insane.

Comment by William Douglas on July 17, 2016 at 14:06

William Robertson, in 1773, advertised 'guns, pistols, ironmongery, japanned tea trays...papers, cheeses, pickles' and a host of other items, which could be supplied by mail order for customers in outlying districts.

Comment by William Douglas on July 16, 2016 at 12:23

There may be a connection to Sir John Douglas, a Royal marine officer, who became involved in the scandal of the alleged illegitimate child born to the Princess of Wales, Caroline of Brunswick.

Sir John Douglas was born at Jean Fields, Dalkeith, near Edinburgh; he was the son of Louis Douglas, Esq.; his grandfather was a lord of Session.  If the grandfather was also Lewis Douglas, then he was involved in the trial of Archibald Stewart for neglect of duty in 1745.

Comment by Harold Edington on June 12, 2014 at 22:17

Lewis Douglas of Garvald is mention in The Heraldry of the Douglases under person (86) in the Douglases of Cavers section.

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