Hi folks, Not a descendent of the Douglas Family but in the arly 2000s I purchased a ruin of a house in New London, Conn´s downtown waterfront historic district. Planned for demolition in 1974 and forgotten about I fell in the love with the house and this small piece of late 18th c and early 19th c New London. Restored the house, spent years (still not done) researching the builder and his family and have made contact with fantastic people all across the world related to the family or the house itself. Built by Richard Douglass (1746-1828) . I will post info on the appropriate boards. Thanks!
Greetings William Douglas! My name is Michael Douglas Brewer. My 9th generation Great Grandfather was Colonel John Douglas (1636-1678) who immigrated to Maryland from Glasgow, Scotland in 1655. He was the son of Sir Robert of Blackerston & Blythswood (1602-1669). I am a direct descendant of the Douglas Lords of Mains from Nicholas Douglas (1340-1406) to Alexander Douglas (1563-1628). I am a descendant of Sir Andrew, Lord of Hermiston (1225-1277), a direct descendant of Sir Archibald Douglas (1178-1240) and a 13 generations-2nd cousin, 7 times removed to The Good Sir James Douglas (1275-1330). I have been to Scotland and traced the steps of my Douglas Ancestors and to St. Bride's Church in the village of Douglas and the remains of the Douglas Castle. I am very proud of my Douglas Ancestors and to be a part of the Douglas Clan. I live in Columbia, Missouri with my wife Cheryl.
Thank you for your message and information. I became interested in my Douglas genealogy after my recent trip to Hogmanay in Edinburgh. Most of my family research has centered on patriots of the American Revolution. I was a founder and first registrar for my local chapter of the Sons of the American Revolution. I knew much about my Douglas line in America and that my immigrant ancestors came to America directly after the American Revolution.
When I was recently in Scotland, I was not researching my Douglas family. Still, when I saw the painting of James Douglas EM at the Scottish National Portrait Gallery, he looked just like my brother in a period outfit… So, after I got home, I did some research and purchased an engraving of James Douglas EM for my home mainly because he looks like my red-headed brother, who has now passed. Unfortunately, the silver signet ring has been "worn proudly" for generations. When I inherited it, the back of the ring was worn so thin it broke. The crest projected outward for stamping documents and was worn down to a blob in the shape of a shield. The ring was passed down as a connection to something important, so it was always worn. I will attach John Douglas's citizenship document, which I have hanging in my house. It states that John Douglas became a citizen of the US on November 4, 1806. His citizenship document from Marlboro County, SC, also states that he was about 57 years old, giving him a berth year of 1749. Also, the document states that he resided in the US between June 18, 1798, and April 14, 1802. According to the Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, from the 1500s to the 1900s, John Douglas arrived in South Carolina in 1799, and based on the date and location, I believe this is my John Douglas.
I descend from his son Duncan Douglas, and another family member recently told me that our family Douglas surname died out from her research as a last name. Still, it has been continually used in my line and several others because it has always been considered one of our most prominent family names. My line goes John Douglas to Duncan Douglas to Elizabeth Douglas, who married Dr. Alfred Hamer, then to Dr. Douglas Hamer Sr. to Dr. Douglas Hamer Jr. to Patricia Douglas Hamer Coley, then me, Douglas Scott Coley, and my son Douglas Hamer Coley. John Douglas had many successful descendants, probably the most successful being the line of John's daughter Christian Douglas McColl, who married Hugh McColl, another local planter family who started a bank. Their direct descendent, Hugh McColl Jr., was the founder and first CEO of Bank of America, the second-largest Bank in the United States.
John Douglas's Will was probated on April 13, 1826; in this will, he lists his wife, Mary, and children. I need to visit family in Marlboro County, SC, and do local records research to see if I can locate his original land deed; I also need to transcribe his will. Thank you in advance for reading this message and again for your message. Here are a few records I have located on Ancestry.com that seem promising to me, but I would love to know your thoughts. The mother's name, Christian, stood out to me because John Douglas named his eldest daughter Christian Douglas, who married Hugh McCall.Doxie%201450.jpg
Best regards.
Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
Yes that's correct, due to the mystery parentage I'm not even sure he was a Douglas, neither was Henry who searched for his whole life ... the secret is only known by Staffords and Lord family
We've been going through family documents recently and came across an original property deed signed by John Jacob Astor from when Hosea Dugliss bought his house on Park Row in Manhattan from the Astor family, which was a great find. Also some documents relating to operations at his mirror making shop. It would be great to find out more about our roots in Scotland as I myself currently live here!
The Lady Archivist was very helpful (unusual nowadays) and as well as being the resident archivist at the Dollar Academy she runs the Dollar Museum:
"I am also the Hon. Curator of Dollar Museum where we have a lot of genealogical information about the Drysdales. We open at Easter – see the website for times etc. I would advise you to arrange a time with me if you decide to visit as the material has to be taken out of the store."
I was recently in touch with the Dollar Academy Archivist (carolan-j@dollaracademy.org.uk) and she sent me an electronic copy of this magazine, also see below re further research:
"Thu, 21 Mar at 16:40
Hi Ron
For your information and any other interested genealogists there are two complete sets of the Dollar Magazine and Fortunas in the archive and school library and also two sets in Dollar Museum.
It will eventually all be digitised. Currently I have 1902 (1st issue) to 1921. Only the ones you saw relating to WW1 are online.
Hope to see you in Dollar some time!
Janet"
There are some copies of the Dollar Magazine online already (1911-1920);
Hi William, sorry about the delay in getting back to you but I am busy at work. I run a Financial Consultancy in the South of England and still work full-time, even at my age.
I am 2/3 viking by DNA and 25% Celtic, which is where I think the Douglas link comes from. I guess some of my viking ancestors had relations with people in the North of the UK i.e. Scotland now. I have not as yet traced things back, but I am aware my family name were big land owners in the Yourkshire area years ago, which makes sense with the viking bit as that is mostly where they landed. I need to sit down and do a bit of ancestry tracing one day if I can.
It is definitely Orval Douglas. He is my paternal grandfather. His father is James David Douglas. They are from West Virginia. I can track back to a John Dowgals married to Bethia Dennis. I am then stuck. Thank you for the welcome! Terry
Thanks William. I will try and upload the family tree as far as I have got. There's one place where there were about three "George"s to choose from so will try and add my reasoning for choosing the one I did!
I've tried to research this area too. My adopted uncle was a Lutz. There's a Freeland Camp in Saginaw, MI. where a woman named Adele Lutz did nurse mission flight to France and died there. He wasn't her child but info says she had several siblings. Wallenburg and Lutz (You can just put in your search bar) were in MI and Wisconsin for some reason. I don't know if there's a connection. My DNA shows a Cherinawski cousin and one was allowed to stay in England after the war for privacy reasons. There's more but this is things i've read over the years and my only connection is mostly names. My grandfather and his brother retired from Ford. His brother was in the corporate and mine was tool and die.or dye?
I also have pictures. One is on a carboard type substance. It says Grandma LaPointe on the back. My grandfather was in WWII- America - Navy. He had a funeral with the flag, etc. Gun Salutes but I don't know what he did. I had another letter from his dad to Clara. he asked her how much more weight did he need to lose to fly. I don't think he was in WWII. He and Clara divorced. He moved to Galveston, TX. They did bring him back for his burial - I think I was told that. I wonder how we could be related to the Cheverie boys that died in WWII. I think I read there was 3. One weird thing and I have no idea where it is. There was a social security card that had the name, Cora Rodgers. My great grandmother was Clara and none of her sisters were named Cora. There was also a "Brother Archer' that Elizabeth wrote about visiting in a letter.
I'm not desperately trying to connect them. Mine says William from Ireland but I do have 14 letters from the mid 1800's my grandfather kept in a locked room. One letter, written by Elizabeth Matthews, Elizabeth states that she is taking care of Mr. Whitworth. I'd be happy to share. Most of the letters are from the sisters. Clara, Elizabeth's daughter and her sister wrote to each other about how their hens were laying. I do have letters from John II and Clara. He does write, "To My Favorite Cousin." I was trying to see if it's possible that there's a mishap because my grandmother's side is also Canada on her dads side. His was Kimmerly, Anderson, Aquire, Maxson. There's one letter written by Clara. She is in a Catholic hospital and says she's going to be very good to John. She wrote that she could hear "Sister Euphrasia praying in the next room." I have the family line. We are Joseph Lapointe and Nancy Fox. Our Cheverie was from PEI, Canada.
The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.
Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?
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Hi folks, Not a descendent of the Douglas Family but in the arly 2000s I purchased a ruin of a house in New London, Conn´s downtown waterfront historic district. Planned for demolition in 1974 and forgotten about I fell in the love with the house and this small piece of late 18th c and early 19th c New London. Restored the house, spent years (still not done) researching the builder and his family and have made contact with fantastic people all across the world related to the family or the house itself. Built by Richard Douglass (1746-1828) . I will post info on the appropriate boards. Thanks!
Greetings William Douglas! My name is Michael Douglas Brewer. My 9th generation Great Grandfather was Colonel John Douglas (1636-1678) who immigrated to Maryland from Glasgow, Scotland in 1655. He was the son of Sir Robert of Blackerston & Blythswood (1602-1669). I am a direct descendant of the Douglas Lords of Mains from Nicholas Douglas (1340-1406) to Alexander Douglas (1563-1628). I am a descendant of Sir Andrew, Lord of Hermiston (1225-1277), a direct descendant of Sir Archibald Douglas (1178-1240) and a 13 generations-2nd cousin, 7 times removed to The Good Sir James Douglas (1275-1330). I have been to Scotland and traced the steps of my Douglas Ancestors and to St. Bride's Church in the village of Douglas and the remains of the Douglas Castle. I am very proud of my Douglas Ancestors and to be a part of the Douglas Clan. I live in Columbia, Missouri with my wife Cheryl.
oops, I was too wordy... Here are the records that I mentioned.
Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
Record Details
Name John Douglas
Arrival Year 1799
Arrival Place South Carolina
Primary Immigrant Douglas, John
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Record Details
Name: John Douglas
Gender Male
Baptism Date 4 Jul 1749
Baptism Place Nigg, Kincardine, Scotland
Father James Douglas
Mother Christian Stronach
Name: John Douglas
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 20 Oct 1789
Marriage Place Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father Charles Lyon
Spouse Mary
Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Record Details
Name: James Douglas
Gender Male
Marriage Date 8 Jul 1745
Marriage Place Nigg, Kincardine, Scotland
Spouse: Christian Stronach
Thank you for your message and information. I became interested in my Douglas genealogy after my recent trip to Hogmanay in Edinburgh. Most of my family research has centered on patriots of the American Revolution. I was a founder and first registrar for my local chapter of the Sons of the American Revolution. I knew much about my Douglas line in America and that my immigrant ancestors came to America directly after the American Revolution.
When I was recently in Scotland, I was not researching my Douglas family. Still, when I saw the painting of James Douglas EM at the Scottish National Portrait Gallery, he looked just like my brother in a period outfit… So, after I got home, I did some research and purchased an engraving of James Douglas EM for my home mainly because he looks like my red-headed brother, who has now passed. Unfortunately, the silver signet ring has been "worn proudly" for generations. When I inherited it, the back of the ring was worn so thin it broke. The crest projected outward for stamping documents and was worn down to a blob in the shape of a shield. The ring was passed down as a connection to something important, so it was always worn. I will attach John Douglas's citizenship document, which I have hanging in my house. It states that John Douglas became a citizen of the US on November 4, 1806. His citizenship document from Marlboro County, SC, also states that he was about 57 years old, giving him a berth year of 1749. Also, the document states that he resided in the US between June 18, 1798, and April 14, 1802. According to the Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, from the 1500s to the 1900s, John Douglas arrived in South Carolina in 1799, and based on the date and location, I believe this is my John Douglas.
I descend from his son Duncan Douglas, and another family member recently told me that our family Douglas surname died out from her research as a last name. Still, it has been continually used in my line and several others because it has always been considered one of our most prominent family names. My line goes John Douglas to Duncan Douglas to Elizabeth Douglas, who married Dr. Alfred Hamer, then to Dr. Douglas Hamer Sr. to Dr. Douglas Hamer Jr. to Patricia Douglas Hamer Coley, then me, Douglas Scott Coley, and my son Douglas Hamer Coley. John Douglas had many successful descendants, probably the most successful being the line of John's daughter Christian Douglas McColl, who married Hugh McColl, another local planter family who started a bank. Their direct descendent, Hugh McColl Jr., was the founder and first CEO of Bank of America, the second-largest Bank in the United States.
John Douglas's Will was probated on April 13, 1826; in this will, he lists his wife, Mary, and children. I need to visit family in Marlboro County, SC, and do local records research to see if I can locate his original land deed; I also need to transcribe his will. Thank you in advance for reading this message and again for your message. Here are a few records I have located on Ancestry.com that seem promising to me, but I would love to know your thoughts. The mother's name, Christian, stood out to me because John Douglas named his eldest daughter Christian Douglas, who married Hugh McCall.Doxie%201450.jpg
Best regards.
Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
Record Details
Name John Douglas
Arrival Year 1799
Arrival Place South Carolina
Primary Immigrant Douglas, John
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Record Details
Name: John Douglas
Gender Male
Baptism Date 4 Jul 1749
Baptism Place Nigg, Ki
Yes that's correct, due to the mystery parentage I'm not even sure he was a Douglas, neither was Henry who searched for his whole life ... the secret is only known by Staffords and Lord family
Hi William!
I replied via an email; if you didn't get it, let me know, and I can try again, or post it here.
Best, -L
We do have a bit of information about him, it's been well summarized here by someone along the family branch, quite an interesting life story:
Hosea Dugliss (1793-1867) - Find a Grave Memorial
We've been going through family documents recently and came across an original property deed signed by John Jacob Astor from when Hosea Dugliss bought his house on Park Row in Manhattan from the Astor family, which was a great find. Also some documents relating to operations at his mirror making shop. It would be great to find out more about our roots in Scotland as I myself currently live here!
Thanks William!
I'll check that group out.
Thank you for the welcome. Much appreciated. I look forward to viewing the information here.
As best I can determine, my Frederick was born in North Carolina.
Linda Tanner
Yes William,
The Lady Archivist was very helpful (unusual nowadays) and as well as being the resident archivist at the Dollar Academy she runs the Dollar Museum:
"I am also the Hon. Curator of Dollar Museum where we have a lot of genealogical information about the Drysdales. We open at Easter – see the website for times etc. I would advise you to arrange a time with me if you decide to visit as the material has to be taken out of the store."
You might even get a cup of tea if you visit!
Best regards
Ron
Hi William,
I was recently in touch with the Dollar Academy Archivist (carolan-j@dollaracademy.org.uk) and she sent me an electronic copy of this magazine, also see below re further research:
"Thu, 21 Mar at 16:40
Hi Ron
For your information and any other interested genealogists there are two complete sets of the Dollar Magazine and Fortunas in the archive and school library and also two sets in Dollar Museum.
It will eventually all be digitised. Currently I have 1902 (1st issue) to 1921. Only the ones you saw relating to WW1 are online.
Hope to see you in Dollar some time!
Janet"
There are some copies of the Dollar Magazine online already (1911-1920);
http://www.worldwar1schoolarchives.org/dollar-academy-scotland/
Best regards
Ron
Also, your Alexander Drysdale and Christian Donaldson couple are about 100+ years down the line.
regards
Ron
Thanks for the add everywhere, William. I am looking forward to meeting some people!
Thanks for your help, that looks interesting. I will read that when I get a moment to myself. Thanks for your help on my behalf.
Hi William, sorry about the delay in getting back to you but I am busy at work. I run a Financial Consultancy in the South of England and still work full-time, even at my age.
I am 2/3 viking by DNA and 25% Celtic, which is where I think the Douglas link comes from. I guess some of my viking ancestors had relations with people in the North of the UK i.e. Scotland now. I have not as yet traced things back, but I am aware my family name were big land owners in the Yourkshire area years ago, which makes sense with the viking bit as that is mostly where they landed. I need to sit down and do a bit of ancestry tracing one day if I can.
It is definitely Orval Douglas. He is my paternal grandfather. His father is James David Douglas. They are from West Virginia. I can track back to a John Dowgals married to Bethia Dennis. I am then stuck. Thank you for the welcome! Terry
Thanks William. I will try and upload the family tree as far as I have got. There's one place where there were about three "George"s to choose from so will try and add my reasoning for choosing the one I did!
I've tried to research this area too. My adopted uncle was a Lutz. There's a Freeland Camp in Saginaw, MI. where a woman named Adele Lutz did nurse mission flight to France and died there. He wasn't her child but info says she had several siblings. Wallenburg and Lutz (You can just put in your search bar) were in MI and Wisconsin for some reason. I don't know if there's a connection. My DNA shows a Cherinawski cousin and one was allowed to stay in England after the war for privacy reasons. There's more but this is things i've read over the years and my only connection is mostly names. My grandfather and his brother retired from Ford. His brother was in the corporate and mine was tool and die.or dye?
I also have pictures. One is on a carboard type substance. It says Grandma LaPointe on the back. My grandfather was in WWII- America - Navy. He had a funeral with the flag, etc. Gun Salutes but I don't know what he did. I had another letter from his dad to Clara. he asked her how much more weight did he need to lose to fly. I don't think he was in WWII. He and Clara divorced. He moved to Galveston, TX. They did bring him back for his burial - I think I was told that. I wonder how we could be related to the Cheverie boys that died in WWII. I think I read there was 3. One weird thing and I have no idea where it is. There was a social security card that had the name, Cora Rodgers. My great grandmother was Clara and none of her sisters were named Cora. There was also a "Brother Archer' that Elizabeth wrote about visiting in a letter.
William,
I'm not desperately trying to connect them. Mine says William from Ireland but I do have 14 letters from the mid 1800's my grandfather kept in a locked room. One letter, written by Elizabeth Matthews, Elizabeth states that she is taking care of Mr. Whitworth. I'd be happy to share. Most of the letters are from the sisters. Clara, Elizabeth's daughter and her sister wrote to each other about how their hens were laying. I do have letters from John II and Clara. He does write, "To My Favorite Cousin." I was trying to see if it's possible that there's a mishap because my grandmother's side is also Canada on her dads side. His was Kimmerly, Anderson, Aquire, Maxson. There's one letter written by Clara. She is in a Catholic hospital and says she's going to be very good to John. She wrote that she could hear "Sister Euphrasia praying in the next room." I have the family line. We are Joseph Lapointe and Nancy Fox. Our Cheverie was from PEI, Canada.
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'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
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