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The Drysdales of Dollar

The 1998 publication - 'History of Dollar' contains a lot of information concerning early Drysdale feuars & tenants in Dollar i.e. residents of Dollar prior to 1605 & thereafter:

https://archive.org/details/historyofdollar0000bail/page/10/mode/2up

"In 1605, probably in need for currency due to the court's move to London, the Earl [Campbell of Argyll] feued out the Mains and Bank lands to his "kyndly" - related or long resident - tenants"

There are a number of Drysdales listed, however one of these early Feuars was a "John Drysdaill, alias Gregorsoune"

This gives rise to a possible link between Drysdale, Grierson & Douglas

Gressone of Lage

https://www.scotclans.com/blogs/clans-g/grierson-clan-history

Also one Robert Greresoune in Drumfreis had a remission for the slaughter of Sir John Mcbrare, chaplain, in 1502 - Pitcairns criminal trials vol 1

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Permalink Reply by William Douglas on March 18, 2025 at 15:03
Permalink Reply by Ronald Drysdale on Saturday

In 1638 there is a further 'Douglas of Cashogle', Drysdale and Crichton link:

James Drysdaill, a servitor to Sir William Douglas of Cowsogall, knight, together with David Crychtoun were witness to one Mungo Park being apprehended in Leith on 2 August 1638.

Ref: The Register of the Privy Council of Scotland vol 7 1638- 1643

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Permalink Reply by Ronald Drysdale on Saturday

Permalink Reply by Ronald Drysdale on March 18, 2025 at 1:18

Hi all,

Russell recently suggested that there could be a possible link between the Douglas and Campbel families (in the context of 1503) in that, as the Campbels (Argyll) were the Lords superior of Castle Gloom & the lands of Dollar, such a link could help explain why any outlaw Douglases would seek refuge in Dollar as newly minted 'Drysdales'.

There seem to be a few marriages outlined on the Ancestry, Familysearch & Genie websites e.g.
- Lady Margaret Douglas Moncrieff (Baroness Campbell) Marriage Estimate 1479 Sir Duncan Campbell, 2nd of Glenorchy
- Lady Margaret Moncrief Hay Campbell Baroness of Agyll married to Sir Archibald Douglas
- etc.
But as may be seen, there is conflicting info on this & it is difficult to find factual genealogy on this point.

I did however manage to find one factual source of information and again it was in 'The manuscripts of His Grace the Duke of Buccleuch and Queensberry' pages 11 & 12

"1497 Indenture between James Campbel of Wester Lowdon, and Elizabeth Crechtoun, spouse of the late William of Douglas of Drumlanerigh, by which it is agreed that John Campbel, son and apparent heir of the said James, shall marry Elizabeth of Douglas, daughter of the said late William of Douglas and Elizabeth Crichtoune......."

Note the Campbells of Loudoun are the oldest branch of the house of Argyll.

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Permalink Reply by William Douglas on March 18, 2025 at 10:28
Permalink Reply by Ronald Drysdale on March 26, 2025 at 13:40

Hi all,

Three pdf wills are attached below from Drysdales in Dollar early 1600s - Scotlandspeople image & full summary transcription:

Testament of George Drysdaill, 1611, Stirling Commissary Court (National Records of Scotland, CC21/5/1 223-224)

Summary

The testament testamentar and inventory of George Drysdaill*, in Dollour, within the parish of Dollour and diocese of Dunkeld, who died in May 1611, given up by himself before witnesses (Thomas Drysdaill in Maynes of Dollour, Walter Drysdaill in Schyrdaill, and unnamed others)....................

 1611- Will & Testament George Drysdell of Dollar ScotlandsPeopl...

Testament of Thomas Drysdaill, 1616, Stirling Commissary Court (National Records of Scotland, CC21/5/2 110-111)

Summary

The testament testamentar, letter will and inventory of Thomas Drysdaill in Nether Mains of Dollour, in the parish of Dollour and diocese of Dunkeld, who died in November 1615, given up by himself on 1 November 1615, before witnesses: James Foirgus, Johne Patoun of Hilfute, and John Drysdaill in Bank of Dollour.........

1616- Will & Testament Thomas Drysdaill of Nether Mains of Doll... 

 

Testament of John Drysdaill, elder, 1616, Stirling Commissary Court (National Records of Scotland, CC21/5/2 188-189)

Summary

The testament testamentar and inventory of Johne Drysdaill*, elder, in Nether Meanis of Dollour, in the parish of Dollour and diocese of Dunkeld, who died on 22 August 1616. Executor: Issobel Duncansone, widow of the deceased (see under legacy below). Cautioner: Johne Drysdaill, portioner of the Maynis of Dollour.............

21-12-1616 John Drysdell testament testamentar & latter will an...

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