Abigail Douglass and James Lewis are my gr x 4 grandparents. Our cousin Mark D has done a DNA test that links us to William (1610) of New London's line. My line is Abigail Douglass b 1747 and James Lewis b abt…"
I've tried, without success, to find the surname Ratleff or some variant in RI, MA, ME etc, but have not found many - and no Eunice/Agnes. Maybe someone else has found some clue as to who she was but I've come up…"
" Betsey, my DNA results from Ancestry are from an autosomal test, which test both my father and mother's side. My mother was a Douglass whose family came from Sebago, Maine. I think I have a connection with Bruce's side as my…"
"James, Bruce Douglass also descends from Elisha and he's the one who did the y-DNA test. If you check the Douglas DNA (FTDNA) results page you'll find a listing "from an ancestor of William Douglass 1610, New London" and…"
" Hi Betsey, I am a decendant of John Douglas, born 1755 in Scarborough, Mass. His father was Elisha Douglas who was the son of John Douglas of Middlebrough. On John Douglas of Middlebrough, born 1695, the info I have at this point is from the…"
One descendant of John of Middleborough has done a y-DNA test and it appears there is a fairly close link to the line of William Douglas b 1609/10 "of New London" but the link may be back in the UK. The haplogroup is…"
"Betsey, Thanks for that information, it cements the detailsI had. This was particularly useful, as I had a ? over George (1673). The marriage of Robert & Julias I have as 7.3.1763 not 53 and sadly my list is short of the same surnames of wives…"
"Alfred, Gary Douglas (who can be found in earlier discussions) is also descended from George b abt 1730, d 1801, m Anne Pittom 1755. His type is I1 (# 255030). He does not match William b 1610, our line's earliest proven…"
Nice to see you've joined this group. It would be great if you could post a complete tree for Aaron. I believe only a partial one is posted. There is also a discussion group for descendants of William …"
"Bill and others,
The SNP result for my cousin, Mark, is 113334 and his test was done before the final "4" in the descriptor had been found. I considered doing an upgrade but concluded, after some discussion with others more…"
"Charles, Through DNA testing we know that the Thomas (1752) of New Fairfield CT is very closely related to Maj Samuel Douglass of Pittstown NY (said to be b in CT). One male from Thomas' line, through Ebenezer, has tested, and one…"
I'm very glad to see you here. I've been hoping you would join this discussion sometime because you posted some data about William and Anne Motley Douglass a number of years ago (on the Douglas board at Ancestry) that I…"
"Great Sandy, My line is through Robert D and Mary Hempstead, William and Hannah ?, William (b 1710) and unknown wife - parents of Abigail D b 1747 in Chester NJ. There is some information on William and Anne at the…"
Which Douglas line are you researching? Dates and places help making connections.
William Douglas, b 1609/10 m Anne Motley/Matlat
My most recent Douglass ancestor is Abigail Douglass b 1747 Chester/Black River, Morris Co NJ who m James Lewis of Mendham, Morris Co NJ b 1747. They went to Knox Co OH with most of their family by 1805 and both died there.
Since a cousin did a DNA test, we now know our line descends from William and Anne, above. Before those results came back we had reached a brick wall in research on Abigail, her bro Aaron, b 1753 and si Sarah, b 1755. Aaron m Phoebe Lewis, si of Abigail's husband James. And Sarah m William Loveridge.
Who is your earliest known Douglas ancestor?
William Douglas b 1610
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I'm trying to find primary records for which William Douglas/s is father to Capt. Aaron b. 1753 m. Phebe Lewis. He died in NJ, she moved with most of their kids to Knox County, Ohio.
To do this, I'm tapping both NJ and CT sources to try to find record of his ancestral migration. I'm interested in your Rogerenes theory. We've also established by maps and historical accounts another possibility: an ore/gold rush mid-1700s in Morris County, NJ.
The sole Douglas Rogerene mention I found so far seems to have come to NJ about 50 years earlier, but was in the line of William b. 1708. Like you, I believe Aaron's father is William b. 1710, a first (?) cousin). Strong evidence from birth/name patterns show Aaron's father William came to NJ to marry his brother Joshua's widow, who had 3 toddlers in the small area called Comb's Hollow, exactly where we find Aaron's dad starting his family about a year after Joshua died, with a wife by the same first name as Joshua's Sarah (Foote). My William's wife has no formal record of a surname except Douglas, which makes sense if she was widow Sarah Foote Douglas. Perhaps a reference to Aaron being buried beside his brother(s) refers to his half-brothers, Joshua's two sons, if William 1710 married his brother's widow.
I'm preparing to look into Rogerene history more at the Morristown Library soon. Any background you know would be helpful. If you have unresolved questions, fill me in and I'll look for answers. The Presbyterian church where at least one of Aaron's sons and at least one presumed half-brother are reportedly buried is next door to the library, too.
Betsey, my DNA results from Ancestry are from an autosomal test, which test both my father and mother's side. My mother was a Douglass whose family came from Sebago, Maine. I think I have a connection with Bruce's side as my great-great grandfather was the brother to Seth Douglas who Bruce Douglass is connected with. With Ancestry I see no connection yet. I don't think there is any correlation with the Y test that Bruce took to find out that he had a connection with the William Douglass , born 1610 in New London. But this is getting interesting and I hope we can find some records of some sorts with this William Douglass family in the US and in Scotland. At least there is something to research at this point in finding a connection to John Douglas of Middleborough, Mass.
Hi Betsey, I am a decendant of John Douglas, born 1755 in Scarborough, Mass. His father was Elisha Douglas who was the son of John Douglas of Middlebrough. On John Douglas of Middlebrough, born 1695, the info I have at this point is from the Howes family that a Lord Hamilton died in Paris in 1681, and he couldn't be the father to John Douglas that John Lufin Douglas claimed in his book on the Douglas family. I ask another question about the book and there was no valid researching when he wrote the book. Researchers in the US in those days had no means to research records in Scotland. I am very much interested about this DNA testing of the Douglas family. I did a DNA test for Ancestry and I have results that gives percentages of my DNA makeup of my father's and mother's side. It is on my mother's side where I am a decendant.
Betsey, Thanks for that information, it cements the detailsI had. This was particularly useful, as I had a ? over George (1673). The marriage of Robert & Julias I have as 7.3.1763 not 53 and sadly my list is short of the same surnames of wives as yours. I was very interested in your 16th century work, the earliest mention I have found is in the tax assessment done for Henry VIII in 1523/4 which mentions THOMAS DUGLAS living in Chipyng Wardon Hundred. http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/subsidies/transcripts/chippingwarden16c.shtml#171 (link via Google) I am happy to get the DNA done, although it is not practical where I am living, however, we have a new grandchild due in the summer and will be visiting the UK then.
Hi Betsey, My husband and kids are descended from two of William and Ann's sons, Robert (line 1) and William (line 2) and can trace back to William and Ann 3 different ways.
Line 1: ROBERT-Mary Hempstead> THOMAS- Hannah Sperry>ROBERT-Sarah Edgecomb>DANIEL-Lydia Douglass(descended from William (line 2), daughter of William and Sarah Denison > CHRISTOPHER
Line 2: WILLIAM-Abiah Hough> RICHARD-Margaret Abell > WILLIAM-Sarah Denison> LYDIA (see line 1) and her brother WILLIAM-Mary Lucas > IVORY- Phebe Smith > PHEBE DOUGLASS-CHRISTOPHER DOUGLASS (see line 1) >
CARLOS- Margaret Stewart > HORACE -Katherine Dunn > HAROLD-Mabel Butler> JACK- Joan Davis > PETER-Sandy Smith (That's us!)
Your information looks promising and perhaps our research will meet up somewhere. Right now, I'm stuck with William Douglas who was born about 1802 in Virginia and later moved to Natchez, Mississippi area. He was in the 1880 census as 78 years old. I am assuming that I need to find out who were his owners to be able to track his ancestors.
The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.
Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?