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Betsey Heath Howes
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Which Douglas line are you researching? Dates and places help making connections.
William Douglas, b 1609/10 m Anne Motley/Matlat
My most recent Douglass ancestor is Abigail Douglass b 1747 Chester/Black River, Morris Co NJ who m James Lewis of Mendham, Morris Co NJ b 1747. They went to Knox Co OH with most of their family by 1805 and both died there.
Since a cousin did a DNA test, we now know our line descends from William and Anne, above. Before those results came back we had reached a brick wall in research on Abigail, her bro Aaron, b 1753 and si Sarah, b 1755. Aaron m Phoebe Lewis, si of Abigail's husband James. And Sarah m William Loveridge.
Who is your earliest known Douglas ancestor?
William Douglas b 1610
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At 2:18 on April 8, 2015, james evans said…

 Betsey, my DNA  results from Ancestry are from an autosomal test, which test both my father and mother's side. My mother was a Douglass whose family came from Sebago, Maine. I think I have a connection with Bruce's side as my great-great grandfather was the brother to Seth Douglas who Bruce Douglass is connected with. With Ancestry I see no connection yet. I don't think there is any correlation with the Y test that Bruce took to find out that he had a connection with the William Douglass , born 1610 in New London. But this is getting interesting and I hope we can find some records of some sorts with this William Douglass family in the US and in Scotland. At least there is something to research at this point in finding a connection to John Douglas of Middleborough, Mass.

At 17:55 on April 7, 2015, james evans said…

 Hi Betsey, I am a decendant of John Douglas, born 1755 in Scarborough, Mass. His father was Elisha
Douglas who was the son of John Douglas of Middlebrough. On John Douglas of Middlebrough, born 1695, the info I have at this point is from the Howes family that a Lord Hamilton died in Paris in 1681, and he couldn't be the father to John Douglas that John Lufin Douglas claimed in his book on the Douglas family. I ask another question about the book and there was no valid researching when he wrote the book. Researchers in the US in those days had no means to research records in Scotland. I am very much interested about this DNA testing of the Douglas family. I did a DNA test for Ancestry and I have results that gives percentages of my DNA makeup of my father's and mother's side. It is on my mother's side where I am a decendant. 

At 6:04 on January 26, 2015, Nigel Douglas said…
Betsey, Thanks for that information, it cements the detailsI had. This was particularly useful, as I had a ? over George (1673). The marriage of Robert & Julias I have as 7.3.1763 not 53 and sadly my list is short of the same surnames of wives as yours. I was very interested in your 16th century work, the earliest mention I have found is in the tax assessment done for Henry VIII in 1523/4 which mentions THOMAS DUGLAS living in Chipyng Wardon Hundred. (link via Google) I am happy to get the DNA done, although it is not practical where I am living, however, we have a new grandchild due in the summer and will be visiting the UK then.
Kind regards
At 17:22 on October 13, 2013, Lewis A King said…

Hi Betsey talk to you soon


At 20:26 on February 9, 2013, Sandy Douglas said…

Hi Betsey,  My husband and kids are descended from two of William and Ann's sons, Robert (line 1) and William (line 2) and can trace back to William and Ann 3 different ways. 

Line 1:  ROBERT-Mary Hempstead> THOMAS- Hannah Sperry>ROBERT-Sarah Edgecomb>DANIEL-Lydia Douglass(descended from William (line 2), daughter of William and Sarah Denison > CHRISTOPHER


Line 2:  WILLIAM-Abiah Hough> RICHARD-Margaret Abell > WILLIAM-Sarah Denison> LYDIA (see line 1) and her brother WILLIAM-Mary Lucas > IVORY- Phebe Smith > PHEBE DOUGLASS-CHRISTOPHER DOUGLASS (see line 1) >

CARLOS- Margaret Stewart > HORACE -Katherine Dunn > HAROLD-Mabel Butler> JACK- Joan Davis > PETER-Sandy Smith (That's us!) 

At 19:47 on December 18, 2012, Susan Morrell said…

Hi Betsey

Crikey you have been busy, thank you for your information, I believe Joseph died 1841, had 7 children altogether. I will email you.



At 0:03 on December 5, 2011, Frederic March Douglas, Jr. said…

Hi Betsey,

Your information looks promising and perhaps our research will meet up somewhere. Right now, I'm stuck with William Douglas who was born about 1802 in Virginia and later moved to Natchez, Mississippi area. He was in the 1880 census as 78 years old. I am assuming that I need to find out who were his owners to be able to track his ancestors.


At 13:19 on June 30, 2011, Stephen P Douglass said…
No, nothing new on Samuel.  I did find additional reference to Jonathan and William:

Revolutionary War Soldiers
Lansingburgh company of Col. Stephen I. Schuyler's Militia, Feb. 17, 1777:
Douglass, Jonathan, Sergeant
Douglass, William, Private.

 Yes, we are still planning a trip north (Jul-Aug), but I am undecided as to where to spend our limited time.  It will definitely be in the Pittstown area... just not sure where.

At 21:40 on May 29, 2011, Mindy porter said…
I would adore any information you might be willing to share! Thank you!!
At 21:37 on May 29, 2011, Mindy porter said…
I am the decendent of Robert Douglass 1815-1878 he was my Great Great Great Grandfather, He married Eliza Wrong and had Annie Eliza and William. William married Malena Bedgood and had my Great Grandmother Annie who married George Parsons Payne they had 2 children Douglass and Donald. Douglass married Jean Gibson Linklater. They have 4 Children my father Monroe married Janet Berich and they in turn had me :)

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The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.

Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.

Professions also help.

'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?

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