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Samuel Douglas(s) b.Scotland 1699 d.New Hampshire 1793 Searching for father

I am Looking for the father of:

Samuel Douglas b.1699 Burnhouses Auchingramont Hamilton, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

d.1793 Littleton NH

married in Scotland Hepzibah Richardson b.1701 d. ?

Immigrated 1730 from Scotland to MA, then NH with his children and grand children

Son: 

"Captain" Samuel D. Douglass

b.Dec. 26, 1723 in Scotland,

d.1816 in Littleton, Grafton, NH, USA

Marriage 29 May 1764 in Scotland to Molly Conant b1748 – d.1835

Immigrated 1730 Scotland to MA, lived NH

potential 2nd marriage to Tabitha Fletcher

Fought in the War of Revolution

There is an Academy named after him in NH

Grandson:

Samuel Douglass Birth 22 Aug 1767 in Townsend, Middlesex, MA, USA

Death 18 May 1841 in Wilton, Hillsborough, NH, USA

married Sarah Seaver b.1770 – d.1829 He was twice marrried; m. 1st, Jan 26, 1792, Sarah, dau of Capt. Robert Seaver of Brookline; m 2nd Ruth Chandler.

A Deacon in the Baptist Church

Immigration records: 

some documentation from "The history of Brookline NH"

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Hi, cousin. :)

We're related through Samuel Douglas (1699), although I'm a product of his son Phineas Douglass who is rarely mentioned in any documentation related to the Douglass family of the Brookline/Townsend area.

The problem you are going to have and must be prepared for is there's a ton of speculation in this family line and people putting their family trees together seem to be anxious to connect it to one of the royal lines, and this leads to poorly sourced work. The results of this work get reproduced despite the lack of evidence that supports it.

For instance, our common ancestor, Samuel Douglas, is only listed by some as being from Aberdeenshire because a Samuel Douglas born in 1699 is confirmed to have died there. However, our Samuel Douglas is buried in a cemetery in Lyman, New Hampshire, so these can't be the same person. If you go through the family trees at Ancestry.com, you'll find Samuel is listed on different trees to have been born in Collessie (Colsey), Aberdeenshire or Dreghorn, and none of these links appears to be sourced in anything substantive. 

If you go one step back in the line to Samuel Douglas' father, Samuel Douglas (1652) and his wife, Hepzibah Farrar, things get even more confusing. This Samuel's birth is ascribed to two different Robert's (1593), both of whom have direct connections to a noble Douglas line (Morton and Mains), although one link is impossible because it would have required Samuel to have been sired by someone who was already long dead at the time of his conception, and the other also appears to be a straw grasp since it seems to require an undocumented extramarital affair in order to have been possible. 

In any event, I hope some of this information can help you, and also that it will keep you from accepting much of what you see in some family trees at face value. :)

Hi Ian!

I had almost given up hope of finding someone else who was tracing this Douglass' back to Scotland.

I most appreciate your message and the difficulties we have in following the line.

I have confirmed my line back to Samuel in NH and am fairly certain of his father from "The history of Brookline". 

I have only interest in bloodline, regardless of any royal affiliation (or name/sept)

I did find Ancestry.com to be helpful in verifying the information I had gathered.  But beyond that the "Robert" is where I can find no definitive corroboration.

Let me know how your search is going as we trace our line.

Also,

Have you done a DNA test? I have toyed with the idea of getting one done through my father but wanted to see if I could find more information to help be head in the right direction.

Thanks SO much for contacting me,

Bernadine Douglass

:)

I've taken three DNA tests (23andme, AncestryDNA and DNA Tribes) and my Y-DNA haplogroup is R1a1a. My father and grandfather have also taken the test, and obviously this result is consistent. So, assuming a direct link from Samuel all the way down the line on both sides of the chain, your father's Y-DNA haplogroup should also be R1a1a.

On a side note, somehow they secured the Y-DNA haplogroup of the first Douglas, William de Douglas, and it happens to be R1a1a as well, so this doesn't hurt the premise that we are directly descended from the original Douglas. 

I hope you find this information helpful. Let me know if I can help in any other respect.

Ian

How about this?

ALEXANDER DOUGLAS, son of
Samuel D., min. here in 1041 ; M.A.
(Edinburgh 1GG9) ; adm. min. of
Longformacus in 1G72 ; pres. by Charles
II. 15th Oct. 1077 ; deprived by the Privy
Council, 8th Sept, 1689, for not reading the
Proclamation of the Estates, nor praying
for William and Mary. He was accused
of taking away the Presb. Records. He
died Jan. 1704, aged about 55. He marr.
Margaret Bannatyne, probably daugh. of
his predecessor, and had issue Samuel
of Burnhouses ; Helen (marr. 27th Dec.
1729, John Johnston, writer, Edinburgh) ;
Katherine (marr. July 1735, Yaxly David
son, merchant, Edinburgh). [Min.-book
Rey. Sec. Sir/., v. ; MS. Ace. of Min., 1689 ;
Edinburgh Marriage Reg. ; Treasury Sed.
Rook, 22nd July 1696.]

Re: Samuel Douglas b.1699 Burnhouses Auchingramont Hamilton, Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Auchingramont is in Hamilton, but Hamilton is Lanarkshhire, not Aberdeenshire

Hi. Your message came up in a search I did for my 4th great grandfather, Henderson Douglas 1809-1871 and his possible father, Samuel Douglas. I’ve hit a road block tracing them or confirming some information on them from when they lived in Ayrshire, Scotland before moving to America. I’m hoping you or someone here can help, but my Samuel would have been in Scotland at least when Henderson was born until he married in 1827.

 

The only information I’ve found was this listing, but no further info:

Ayrshire, Scotland, Parish and Probate Records

Douglas, Samuel, of Burnhouses, residing at Auchingramont, near Hamilton 05 Mar 1794 and 20 Nov 1794

Book Mac. Mc. contd. (Marriages)

Collection Lanarkshire, Aberdeenshire, Banff, Ayr, & Stirling: - Commissariot Record of Hamilton and Campsie, Register of Testaments, 1564-1800

 

Have you ever come across the surnames Glendinnan/ Glendinning or Moore or Towel/Toal from the 1700’s in Ayrshire? Or further information on the Douglas’s? I think Henderson’s parents are Samuel Douglass 1772-1871 and Jane Towel/Toad 1771-1871, but the dates don’t seem right, both born and died in same year. Maybe people connected his parents through his marriage records? But all ancestry gives is the date, Henderson and his wife’s names and file number, so I can’t tell. I know his wife was Anne Glendinnan 1812-1884. They were married on 1 Dec 1827 in Monkton, Ayr, Scotland.

 

I haven’t found any source information on Samuel, just other trees connecting them. So I don’t feel confident. I do have a lot of information on Henderson, including multiple census records, marriage record, and birth records for his kids. All dates and names match perfectly.

 

How common were those surnames in Ayrshire then? I know him and his sons were miners, so perhaps his father was too?

 

Any tips or information you have would be wonderful.

Thank you.

Jen

Not much help!

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The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.

Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.

Professions also help.

'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?


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