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Comment by William Douglas 11 hours ago

Re:  Sholto Douglas(s) (1763-1828?)

'Your' William Sholto Douglas, newspaper editor in New Zealand, is NOT the same William Sholto Douglas, father of  Ian Fitzroy Sholto Douglas (1916–1998) and Ronald George Sholto Douglas (born 1926).
See here:
https://www.douglashistory.co.uk/famgen/getperson.php?personID=I120... 
Ian Fitzroy Sholto Douglas was my father.
Ronald George Sholto Douglas (born 1926) did live for a while in New Zealand but did not have progeny there, though he did elsewhere.

Comment by William Stronach 16 hours ago

Hi

I just joined the site and this group. I'm a descendant of Sholto Douglas(s) (1763-1828?) who married Mary Bruce in 1782 (Auchtermuchty, Fife), via his second son, David Douglas (1785-1856 Fife).
I'm still pretty much a DNA novice but I’m particularly looking for any direct male descendants of this Sholto Douglas who may have taken a Y-DNA test in order to identify his haplogroup.
I’m yet to trace any living direct male descendants in my branch (the male line stopped with my great grandfather) but I happen to know from some other research that William Sholto Douglas (1856-1913), a prominent newspaper editor in New Zealand, was a direct male descendant of Sholto’s first son John Douglas and that William Sholto Douglas had two sons, Ian Fitzroy Sholto Douglas (1916–1998) and Ronald George Sholto Douglas (born 1926).

I'd love to hear from any other descendants of Sholto Douglas and Mary Bruce, especially any in a direct male line.

Comment by William Douglas on October 22, 2025 at 16:49

From a recent post on Wikipedia:

Archibald of Douglas is thought to have married Margaret, daughter of Sir John Crawford of Crawfordjohn and had issue:

William of Douglas (c.1220–c.1274)
A second son; Andrew , is often attributed to Archibald of Douglas, although without primary evidence, arguably due to this Andrew's possession of the lands of Hermiston; said lands previously held by Archibald. However an Andrew de Douglas was a known Knight of Archibald de Douglas and never proven as his biological son.  Recent Y-DNA research analysis published in 2013 by Alexandrina Murray, Administrator of the Murray Clan DNA Research Project  and via the Douglas Y-DNA project at Family Tree DNA administered by Kirk Douglas, which results were discussed at the University of St Andrews Scotland Conference: Scotland and the Flemish People during May of 2016. This Y-DNA research has proven that the haplogroup R1b descendants of Andrew Douglas of Hermiston do not match the known descendants of Archibald Douglas via Archibald's son William above haplogroup R1a, through the ennobled Scottish line of the Earls; Dukes and Marquess' of Queensberry line of Douglas. 

Nor do they match the I2b1 Y-DNA haplogroup of the noble Douglas-Hamilton line the most senior Douglas family as Dukes of Hamilton, also noted in the historical literature as being descended from the original progenitor - William l de Douglas ; 1140 -1214 circa. 

Therefore William Douglas and Andrew Douglas were definitely unrelated paternally if the published genealogical trees are correct, with Andrew de Douglas of Hermiston possibly receiving Hermiston lands as a reward due to his services as a Knight of Archibald de Douglas as argued by Alexandrina Murray.

Comment by Jackie Stoddard on June 29, 2025 at 3:48

Brat Douglas seams to already be a member
anyone else got similar lines haplogroup?
have you joined the Douglas DNA project at gedmatch yet?
Douglas line are you researching? Dates and places help making connections.

- Bruce Wayne Douglas born 1 Dec 1905 in Ada, Hardin, Ohio Died 26 Aug 1983 in Salem, Marion, Oregon
- Chester Scott Douglass born 15 Feb 1880 in Lima, Allen, Ohio died 12 Dec 1960 Salem, Marion, Oregon
- Leroy Douglass born 27 Oct 1853 Coshocton, Ohio died 24 Aug 1913 in Lima, Allen, Ohio
- James Douglass born 1823 in Coshocton, Ohio died 1860 either in Ohio or Illinois. Probate was in Walker, Hancock, Illinois
- John Douglass born 1790 in Lancaster, Pa or MD. died 1860 in Lima, Allen, Ohio
James Douglass born 17 Mar 1755 Ireland died 1836 Belmont, Ohio (NOT VERIFIED DATES)
FT-DNA Haplogroup R-FT63676
Cousin is Scott Douglas of Manassas, VA here on Douglas History

Who is your earliest known Douglas ancestor?

James Douglas 1755 - 1836

dna haplotype

R-FT63676

Comment by William Douglas on June 28, 2025 at 17:34

List of the Ydna Haplogroups of Scottish clan (and grayne) chieftain lineages. There are definitely other recorded lines, not just these. A few R1b-L21s, especially L1065 among the Highlanders, which is unsurprising. Clear evidence for viking and other ancient origins also. The list was put together by the founder of https://www.eupedia.com/

Comment by William Douglas on March 20, 2025 at 10:21

Comment by Bob Douglas on March 14, 2025 at 10:59

I don’t know where James was born.

he was apprenticed in Surrey (England) an worked there.

The apprenticeship taxation record gives his father’s name as John.

tears ago my grandmother Sid the Douglases originated in Scotland. My grandfather died while I was a baby.

my termminal haplogroup is R-BY46957

and I have done big y

The only thing I got from y -111 was that my closest relative who was in USA originated from Scotland via Northern Ireland

Our connection is probably way back

Comment by Jackie Stoddard on March 14, 2025 at 10:20

Project Name: Douglas DNA research autosomal and YDNA
Kit MP6246591 added to Douglas DNA research autosomal and YDNA 
about 35 members in the project now
BOB DOUGLAS MP624659 gedmatch kit compare at 5 CM
Bob Naomi is my 1st cousin 1 x r
Pat and Annette are her daughters and my 2nd cousins
 we have Glenbervie red Douglas lines 
 and James is in our lines our brick wall is a John Douglas! 
 above our Margaret Douglas (she married george Tower)
I think there was a son James too
where was your James Born?
 the MRCA is 7.5-8 generations ago which would fit 
I will also do a 4cm compare , I will probably show up in that one

Comment by Jackie Stoddard on March 14, 2025 at 10:06

Thanks Bob I will go and add you , seeing you are a Douglas and have done your YDNA have they not confirmed the line via your haplogroup?
 you must have only done a 69 or 111 level Ydna not a BIGY ?

Comment by Bob Douglas on March 14, 2025 at 9:34

I have applied to join the project. The second box to fill in, I have not answered as I couldn’t see what I was being asked

i have done DNA with Ancestry and 23 and me, and uploaded to other sites.

I have also done Y dna and big Y at family tree dna

I cannot yet tie in to any historic Douglas lines

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