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DOUGLAS CHART all three Branches DRUMLANRIG , ANGUS , MORTON this is all copied from a group I run Royal Stuart and Stewart Autosomal DNA , as many are Douglas desecendants also so I finally got time…Continue
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Started this discussion. Last reply by William Douglas May 26, 2019. 1 Reply 0 Likes
Started this discussion. Last reply by Jackie Stoddard Sep 2, 2017. 4 Replies 1 Like
Douglas / OLIPHANT/ Smith / Sinclair lines looks like I am finally getting the Oliphant mystery sorted I have Douglas on both maternal (stuart / Douglas side) and on Paternal is the Oliphant /…Continue
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Many Douglas are aware of Royal Stuart / Stewart in their lines, so I'm posting this (I have Douglas and Stewart , on both Maternal and Paternal & Morton I also think on the Paternal)Do you…Continue
Glenbervie branch are Red Douglases
From book “Reminiscences of Whangarei “ by Alexander Rust (G G Granduncle) re Rusts descended from Glenbervie Black Douglases (what the book says)
But Bryan Crawford said this is a mistake in that its the Reds .. Douglases of Angus (red) eventually connect into the Black Douglases.
Glenbervie branch are Red Douglases descended from the earl of Angus. Details of the family are in the book
Letters My Grandfather Wrote Me, By Bryan Crawford" (great book I have this !)
HELP please with anyone whom can take me beyond here
Margaret Douglas Stewart (Married A Rust) is as far back I can go in the line
Margaret Douglas STEWART born abt 1761
Civil parish: | Old Machar |
County: | Aberdeenshire |
Address: | Thistle St |
Parish Number: | 168B |
married Alexander RUST (they had 8 children)
baptised 1792 St Nicholas
d 1879 Banff
Merchant/Grocer Married Margaret Douglas STEWART (could her parents be on the marriage cert?) we have no death cert ? or birth cert …where to find parents!?? maybe the 80 year old was the grandmother!?? mother of same name margaret douglas stewart?
Posted on April 21, 2019 at 0:00 6 Comments 0 Likes
How the MacKenzie-Douglas line came about
The Daughter of Sir Robert 6th Baronet of…
Posted on February 6, 2018 at 8:06 2 Comments 0 Likes
Hi William , can you please remind me the steps to get to my tree ! once logged in on the Douglas Archives , I can never work out how to
there really NEEDS to be a simple link /Navagation button "MY TREE " or "GO TO MY TREE"
please tell me the steps to get into it ? I think this might not encourage people to edit their trees , if its hard to get to
I thought my tree was lost when that crash happened a year or two back . thanks Jackie
Posted on December 21, 2014 at 1:38 0 Comments 0 Likes
I now have James Douglas b1600's, son John Douglas b 23.1.1708 Aberdeen, m Agnes Donald Born 9.4.1710 in Bourtie Aberdeen, daughter Margaret Douglass married George Tower, dau Margaret Douglas Tower married John Stewart shipmaster Aberdeen; John Stewart probably a son of Bonnie Prince Charlie/ Charles Edward Stuart.
we are descended from the Red Douglas , Earls of Angus , Glenbervie Douglas , any info would be grateful
Posted on December 14, 2014 at 9:04 0 Comments 0 Likes
we are apparently descended from Bonnie Prince Charlie, either John Stewart is his son (no record of parents b abt 1749 (maybe to do with the Lady Primrose taking a child from B PR Charlie) & daughter of John Stewart and Margaret Douglas (Tower) was Margaret Douglas Stewart 1794, probably the Granddaughter of Bonnie Prince Charlie (according to a letter I have)
its complex; theres 3 possible theories I have so far
Has anyone seen a John Douglas abt 1720 m. Agnes Donald abt…
ContinueThought that this might be of interest:
https://www.facebook.com/fellowshipofthethistle/posts/1415536675170286:0
Hello Jackie - The Olivers were bondsmen/vassals of the Douglas Clan (see relevant page on the Douglas website) and my DNA seems to be a close match to at least one Douglas who claims 1st Earl as a direct ancestor. How I appear to be at least as Douglas as many who bear that surname I leave to your imagination - I have my theory. Tracing my Oliver ancestry back from the present reveals that the Olivers in my line go back in the earliest parish records for 1537 (Henry VIII) for Flash village in Staffordshire. There is a gap of around 150 years between the last Black Douglas action in the border country and this earliest Staffordshire record. My speculation, and it can only be that, is that my Olivers did a runner southwards after the defeat at Arkinholm and took refuge in the bleak Pennine uplands to avoid any retribution. They remained a significant presence in Flash until well into the 19th Century where they survived by upland agriculture, mining of coal outcrops and other nefarious activities.
Hi Jackie.
Yes I have had my DNA tested, both by Family Tree DNA and by Ancestry.
The family tree DNA showed up as belonging to "Haplogroup E1b1b1" and I have exact matches to a Douglas in Canada and two douglases in Australia.
We can trace our line with absolute certainty as follows:
John Douglas (1707-1762).my great, great, great, great grandfather
Rev.James Douglas (1753-18190. my great,great great grandfather.
James Edward Morton Douglas (1794-1864) [brother of Richard William Glode Douglas] my great great grandfather
Dr.David Morton Douglas (1828-19010) my great grandfather
James Herbert David Morton Douglas (1882-1956) my grandfather.
Kenneth David Morton Douglas (1920-2004) my father.
However there is some evidence that the line goes backwards from John Douglas to his ancestors:
Thomas Douglas of Reeth (1664-1746). John's father
Alexander Douglas (1645- ?)Thomas's father
Alexander Douglas (1585-1661 these dates are not confirmed) Alexanders' father. He is the one recorded as travelling with James VI of Scotland when he ascended the English throne as James I.
However from the DNA test that have been done by me and some of my relatives it does appear that there may well have been a "non parental event" and at the moment it is speculated by some Australian relatives that it may be that Thomas Douglas was adopted. But that doesn't change the fact that he was a DOUGLAS, doe it.
There is a group of Douglas ancestors who have set up a "Yahoo Group named RWGDOUGLAS" and we are continually searching for answers as to which branch of the Doulases he came from.
I have recently found a record showing that there was an Alexander Douglas occupying the position of "Macer" in James VI's Court (in the Privy Council) from August 1599 which ties in well with our research that has confirmed that an Alexander Douglas was a "Keeper of the Council Chambers" (that is the Privy Council) and that he apparently returned to Scotland later in 1603 after only a few months in London.
The record that I found was contained within a thesis completed by Amy L. Juhala that can be found at "www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/handle/1842/1727. It not only shows the records of the Royal Household but also records the names of other Douglases in the Royal Court from James's infancy to the time he wnet to London. It makes interesting reading.
So that is where I am at at the moment.
If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to get in touch.
Hi Jackie.
Dont know if my first try at posting a comment was sucessful, so here goes again.
As you will have seen I am told that I am related to the Black Douglases but unfortunately cannot prove it...yet.
However my son David married a Stewart a 5 years ago, so maybe we are related somewhere along the line?
Regards
Ken Douglas
I have found these references to tea merchants in Aberdeen:
1839 Douglas, Alexander, grocer, tea and spirit dealer, 82, Shiprow AberdeenRust, George, grocer, tea, wine, and spirit merchant, 14, George street, h. Loch-head, by Lunatic Asylum
I think the Rusts on this site are American?
I looked for a link to Sir James Douglas of Canada, but found none.
The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.
Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.
Professions also help.
'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.
Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?
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