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Douglas families in Ireland

Researching members of the Douglas family in Ireland is notoriously difficult.  So many records have been destroyed, and the families often moved on to America, or elsewhere.

This group is for those tracing their ancestors in Ireland.

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Why did Scots use Ireland as a stepping stone to emigrate to America?

Scots emigrated to America from Ireland primarily due to a combination of factors:

1. Economic Hardships: Many Scots faced poverty and limited economic opportunities in Ireland, particularly during the 18th and 19th centuries. The decline of traditional industries and agricultural challenges pushed them to seek better prospects in America.

2. Religious Persecution: Some Scots, especially Presbyterians, faced discrimination and persecution in Ireland. Seeking religious freedom, they migrated to America where they hoped to practice their faith without oppression.

3. Land Displacement: The Highland Clearances in Scotland led to many Scots being displaced from their lands. This forced migration contributed to their movement to Ireland and subsequently to America.

4. Famine: The Great Famine in the mid-19th century prompted many to leave Ireland altogether in search of food and stability, leading some Scots to migrate to America.

5. Family and Community Ties: Established Scottish communities in America often encouraged relatives and friends to join them, creating a network of support for new immigrants.

6. Adventure and Opportunity: The promise of land, work, and a new life attracted many Scots, who were drawn by the idea of the American Dream.

These factors combined to create a significant wave of Scottish emigration from Ireland to America, particularly in the 18th and 19th centuries.

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A history of the Douglas family whose Ulster roots are from Lurgan, Co. Armagh, Northern Ireland and surrounding Townlands

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Charles Douglas of Dervock

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Comment by Sarah Marie Douglas on January 3, 2013 at 0:54

The earliest record for our branch of the Douglas family  in Co Wicklow is the baptism of William Douglas in 1779. I dont know when we came to this area or why we came here.

Comment by William Douglas on July 8, 2012 at 12:18

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Comment by Alison Christine Hodgkiss ( born on June 13, 2012 at 8:45

Good luck Tammie! Please let us know how it goes with your DNA results..I am fascinated..Have you tried Scotandspeople.gov.uk in any of your searches to date, or Findmypast.co.uk ? Are you on any of the main sites like Ancestry.com.au? I'm about to pay for a subscription and will take a look for you in Australia. I am also 'stuck' with my other Scottish side, McFarlane, but won't give up...Hopefully paying as I go with Scotand's people, I'll have some success before long. 

Comment by Tammie Arundell Foster on June 13, 2012 at 2:26

My Douglass line in Joesph Douglass and Mary Orr Burgess Both born in Cork Ireland late moved to Scotland. Joesph was a Convict sent to Australia on the Baring. I have been looking for about 9 years with no luck. So i am doing DNA soon. all info is on this site....http://members.pcug.org.au/~pdownes/douglass/index.htm

Comment by Alison Christine Hodgkiss ( born on June 11, 2012 at 8:51

My Gt Grandfather was Aaron Douglas ( abt 1838-1901) who'd emigrated to Melbourne Australia from Ireland 2 February 1858 age 20

and shortly thereafter married Rose Coffey b. 1837 from Beauparc and Yellow Furze, Meath Ireland, Arrival Melbourne 23 July 1859 Age 22.

I have obtained their marriage certificate, (attached) which lists Aaron's father as George Douglas and mother, Mary Sweeny. Aaron%20Douglas%20Marriage%2018081865.pdf

They were also Catholic..And so far, I've found a George Douglas,

 in Griffiths 1854 in the Parish of Rathcore, Townland of Rahinstown, County Meath. Poor Law Union of Trim (the Union would cover an area with towns/villages/parish's in a 12 mi. radius)Tenant of Robert Fowler.

Richard Douglas land 21 acres 3 roods 7 perches - no house so he must live elsewhere*
#2a George Douglas, house, outbuildings and land 118.0.37
this is a significant size property for the time, the rental per year would of been quite high, I don't see any renters/occupiers providing him with an income.

*Richard Douglas, Parish Athboy, Stocks Townland tenant of the Earl of Darnley, PLU Trim. property house, outbuildings and 5a 202.2.23 another extremely large property as the average person would have maybe 20- acres.

There were 18 Douglas occupiers in Meath at this time 1854 none were Aaron (he may have still been living with his father and helping run the farm but not have property in his own name, he may have not been the oldest son and chose to go to Aust. to make his own fortune? However, this is just at the end of one of the worst Famines in Irish History)

Directories for other Douglases in Ireland (below):

1881 & 1898

Daniel Douglas, Stocks, Athboy, Trim, farmer he is listed under farmer but also under Nobility, Gentry & Clergy, he isn't nobility-no title nor Clergy ie Rev.therefore part of the Gentry/Esquire class as noted above who have land that is rented out for income.
1894:
Daniel Douglas, Cherryvalley, farmer
Richard Douglas, Rathmoylan, farmer
William Douglas, Isaacstown, farmer

I'm fairly new to this, and feel like I've hot a brick wall, so if anyone has any leads of further information I'd be extremely grateful :)

Comment by William Douglas on April 26, 2012 at 13:16

The Douglas Clan has not disappeared!

You can read about the head of the clan (or lack of)  here: http://douglashistory.ning.com/profiles/blogs/head-of-the-clan-a-de...

Comment by William Douglas on April 26, 2012 at 13:09

I do not think that Frederick Douglas had any known Irish ancestors? (This is an Irish forum).

You can read about him here: http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/frederickdouglass.htm 

Although one branch of the Douglas family are 'Black Douglases', this does not refer to skin colour, just as the 'Red Douglas' branch are not red.

Comment by William Douglas on April 26, 2012 at 13:03

Fred,

Welcome to our group.

I am not sure which William Douglass , or Douglas, you are referring to, but there is no historical difference between one and two 'esses'.  Names were often written down by official recorders who did not know whether there should be one or two, and once people learned how to read and write, they adopted whatever had been written. This older Douglass families may have used Douglas.

Yours aye,

William

Comment by Fred Keith Douglass on April 26, 2012 at 7:46

I am not sure, but Frederick Douglass was a black man.  Do we have a lot of ancesters that were Black?

Comment by Fred Keith Douglass on April 26, 2012 at 7:42

William Douglass has 2 esses in his name . Why do many archives only show 1 ess?

 

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The more information you can give about the people you mention, the more chance there is of someone else connecting with your family.

Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.

Professions also help.

'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

Maybe it is time to update the information in your profile?


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