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Douglas families in Ireland

Researching members of the Douglas family in Ireland is notoriously difficult.  So many records have been destroyed, and the families often moved on to America, or elsewhere.

This group is for those tracing their ancestors in Ireland.

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A history of the Douglas family whose Ulster roots are from Lurgan, Co. Armagh, Northern Ireland and surrounding Townlands

Started by William Douglas. Last reply by William Douglas 2 minutes ago. 14 Replies

Two or three years ago, I was given a folder of files made up of the…Continue

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Charles Douglas of Dervock

Started by Richard William Maginis Douglas. Last reply by Richard William Maginis Douglas Feb 5. 11 Replies

At a dead end despite 20 years research on my 3rd G-Grandfather Rev. Charles Douglas (1743-1833) of Dervock, Co. Antrim, whose father is indicated to be a James Douglas of Dervock by the University…Continue

DOUGLAS at CAVAN, Ireland

Started by James Williams Jan 31. 0 Replies

I found Jean DOUGLAS b 1812 on a fragment of the 1821 census at Edenburt Co. Cavan.  She was shown as the daughter of 30 yr old widow, Ann Douglas, along with her brothers Alexander (aged 6) Robert…Continue

SAMUEL DOUGLAS (born abt. 1779) OF ARDINARIVE/ NEWTOWNLIMAVADY)

Started by Rina Douglas. Last reply by Susanna Elizabeth Bain Jul 22, 2020. 3 Replies

Does anyone have any information about this mysterious chap? We know that he married a Jane Gay (daughter of Mathew Gay) who was also from the same town/area. He is my great (x6) grandfather. His…Continue

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Comment by Tammie Arundell Foster on June 13, 2012 at 2:26

My Douglass line in Joesph Douglass and Mary Orr Burgess Both born in Cork Ireland late moved to Scotland. Joesph was a Convict sent to Australia on the Baring. I have been looking for about 9 years with no luck. So i am doing DNA soon. all info is on this site....http://members.pcug.org.au/~pdownes/douglass/index.htm

Comment by Alison Christine Hodgkiss ( born on June 11, 2012 at 8:51

My Gt Grandfather was Aaron Douglas ( abt 1838-1901) who'd emigrated to Melbourne Australia from Ireland 2 February 1858 age 20

and shortly thereafter married Rose Coffey b. 1837 from Beauparc and Yellow Furze, Meath Ireland, Arrival Melbourne 23 July 1859 Age 22.

I have obtained their marriage certificate, (attached) which lists Aaron's father as George Douglas and mother, Mary Sweeny. Aaron%20Douglas%20Marriage%2018081865.pdf

They were also Catholic..And so far, I've found a George Douglas,

 in Griffiths 1854 in the Parish of Rathcore, Townland of Rahinstown, County Meath. Poor Law Union of Trim (the Union would cover an area with towns/villages/parish's in a 12 mi. radius)Tenant of Robert Fowler.

Richard Douglas land 21 acres 3 roods 7 perches - no house so he must live elsewhere*
#2a George Douglas, house, outbuildings and land 118.0.37
this is a significant size property for the time, the rental per year would of been quite high, I don't see any renters/occupiers providing him with an income.

*Richard Douglas, Parish Athboy, Stocks Townland tenant of the Earl of Darnley, PLU Trim. property house, outbuildings and 5a 202.2.23 another extremely large property as the average person would have maybe 20- acres.

There were 18 Douglas occupiers in Meath at this time 1854 none were Aaron (he may have still been living with his father and helping run the farm but not have property in his own name, he may have not been the oldest son and chose to go to Aust. to make his own fortune? However, this is just at the end of one of the worst Famines in Irish History)

Directories for other Douglases in Ireland (below):

1881 & 1898

Daniel Douglas, Stocks, Athboy, Trim, farmer he is listed under farmer but also under Nobility, Gentry & Clergy, he isn't nobility-no title nor Clergy ie Rev.therefore part of the Gentry/Esquire class as noted above who have land that is rented out for income.
1894:
Daniel Douglas, Cherryvalley, farmer
Richard Douglas, Rathmoylan, farmer
William Douglas, Isaacstown, farmer

I'm fairly new to this, and feel like I've hot a brick wall, so if anyone has any leads of further information I'd be extremely grateful :)

Comment by William Douglas on April 26, 2012 at 13:16

The Douglas Clan has not disappeared!

You can read about the head of the clan (or lack of)  here: http://douglashistory.ning.com/profiles/blogs/head-of-the-clan-a-de...

Comment by William Douglas on April 26, 2012 at 13:09

I do not think that Frederick Douglas had any known Irish ancestors? (This is an Irish forum).

You can read about him here: http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/frederickdouglass.htm 

Although one branch of the Douglas family are 'Black Douglases', this does not refer to skin colour, just as the 'Red Douglas' branch are not red.

Comment by William Douglas on April 26, 2012 at 13:03

Fred,

Welcome to our group.

I am not sure which William Douglass , or Douglas, you are referring to, but there is no historical difference between one and two 'esses'.  Names were often written down by official recorders who did not know whether there should be one or two, and once people learned how to read and write, they adopted whatever had been written. This older Douglass families may have used Douglas.

Yours aye,

William

Comment by Fred Keith Douglass on April 26, 2012 at 7:46

I am not sure, but Frederick Douglass was a black man.  Do we have a lot of ancesters that were Black?

Comment by Fred Keith Douglass on April 26, 2012 at 7:42

William Douglass has 2 esses in his name . Why do many archives only show 1 ess?

Comment by Fred Keith Douglass on April 26, 2012 at 7:41

What Happened to the Douglass clan and why does it seam we dissapeared?

Comment by William Douglas on January 13, 2012 at 18:59

Ireland's Military Archives have been made available online for the first time. By March it plans to publish the Bureau of Military History Collection 1913 to 1921.

The Archives, which are held in Cathal Brugha Barracks in Rathmines in Dublin, can now be accessed via a new website - militaryarchives.ie. A quick visit to the site did not imediaely make it clear how one is supposed to search the site, but perhaps that will become clearer in March.

The site has been launched in conjunction with the National Archives of Ireland, and is designed to appeal to historians, genealogists and members of the public researching their family tree.

By March, it plans to publish the Bureau of Military History Collection 1913 to 1921, online, including 36,000 pages of witness statements, digitised and fully word searchable.

This will be followed by the first release of the Military Service Pensions Project - material which the Defence Forces say "will provide a major and never before seen insight into the 1916 Rising and the War of Independence in particluar".

Many researchers confuse the Military Archives as a place of deposit for the records of all Irish people who have served in other armed forces. In fact, the Military Archives holds only the personnel records of those who served in the military of the Irish Free State from 1922 to the late 1970's, as well as material pertaining to the Irish Volunteers and the Independence movement, 1913-1921. Information about British Army records, including those for the Irish regiments, can be obtained at The National Archives of England at Kew in London.

Comment by William Douglas on January 12, 2012 at 21:12

Re: James C. Whyte Douglas 


I have just received the following information:

Pour une association généalogique en Bretagne, je suis en train d'étudier l'ouvrage du pasteur E.W.L. DAVIES "Wolf-hunting and wild sport in lower Britanny". Dans ce livre apparaît un nommé "Shafto" qui est en fait James-Charles WHYTE DOUGLAS. Voici sa généalogie :
- James-Charles WHYTE DOUGLAS
°29/11/1819 Cluden Bank, Holywood, Dumfries (Scotland)
son of Thomas WHYTE (+12/5/1861) and Emily-Olivia DOUGLAS (+6/2/1838).
He lived in Laz (Finistère, Britanny, France)
He died 3/4/1885 at Huelgoat (Finistère, Britanny, France)
He married 31/8/1885 at Belle-Isle-en-Terre (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France)
with
- Mathurine MOY (not MOYA)°8/3/1825 at Langast (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France), daughter of Julien MOY and Françoise GROSVALET.
They have got 2 children :
- George-Marie MOY DOUGLAS (sic) °12/11/1849 at Plouguenast (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France)
- Helène-Rosalie-Marie WHYTE DOUGLAS °4/9/1851 at Plouguenast (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France), she married 20/2/1875 )at Belle-Isle-en-Terre (Côtes-d'Armor, Britanny, France)with Nathaniel KEMP.

 

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Dates and places of births, deaths and marriages all help to place families.

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'My great-grandmother mother was a Douglas from Montrose' does not give many clues to follow up! But a bit of flesh on the bones makes further research possible. But if we are told who she married, what his profession was and where the children were baptised, then we can get to work.

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