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Douglas families Byfield & Chipping Warden, Northamptonshire, England

My great grandfather Daniel John Douglas (b. 1849) boarded the "Duke of Westminister" in Nov 1885 and arrived in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia on the 11 Jan 1886 wife his wife Harriet ?.  His father was Daniel Douglas (occupation - shepherd) born 1820 in Byfield, Northamptonshire, England and mother Elizabeth Woodfield of Tysoe, Warwickshire. I believe his father was Daniel Wells Douglas born in Chipping Warden 1784 and died in Byfield in 1863, and mother Elizabeth ?. He had two brothers and one sister, George born 1814, Susanna born 1823 and John Douglas born 1829. If anyone has any further information on the Douglas families of Byfield and Chipping Warden i would truly appreciate it.

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Comment by William Douglas on August 24, 2018 at 21:28

In May 1744 a bill was moved in the House of Lords to dissolve the marriage between Henry Scudamore, 3rd Duke of Beaufort and Frances Scudamore.[17] Among witnesses who testified under oath before their Lordships was John Pargiter, a farmer of Chipping Warden, who stated:

"That, in the Beginning of June, 1741, he observed a Man (whom he described), and afterwards found it was Lord Talbot, to meet the Dutchess as she was walking alone in the Fields near that Place; and thereupon mentioned adulterous Familiarities which passed between them."[17]

Witnesses William Douglas and Thomas Bonham corroborated Pargiter's evidence

Comment by William Douglas on August 24, 2018 at 21:23

There have been Douglas families in Northamptonshire since 1527 when a Thomas Douglas of Chipping Warden probated his will. In 1528 his wife Agnes's will was probated. There was a Robert Duglas who died in Greatworth, Northants in 1569, but he only left a wife Margaret and a daughter Francis (Frances?).

The county is of particular interest to those researching William Douglas, b1610

Comment by William Douglas on August 24, 2018 at 21:01

John Douglas, 1790 - 1873
John Douglas was born in 1790 to Thomas Douglas and Elizabeth Douglas (born Inns).
Thomas was born in December 1748, in Chipping Warden, Northants.
Elizabeth was born on September 5 1748, in Towcester.
John had 7 siblings: Thomas Douglas, Elizabeth Douglas and 5 other siblings.
John married Elizabeth Douglas (born Cowper) in 1817, at age 27.
Elizabeth was born in 1788, in Ash Le Walls, Northamptonshire, England.
They had 4 children: John Douglas and 3 other children.
John died in 1873, at age 83

Comment by Russell Lynn Drysdale on March 2, 2017 at 15:42

William , I had this piece that refers to both Little Douglas and George Douglas

Comment by William Douglas on February 8, 2017 at 11:20

I have unearthed these notes on the Douglas family in Northamptonshire, which may/must link in somewhere:

John Douglass born 30 April 1805 Culworth married Ann Talbot 1808 Morton Pinkney North Hants in 6 June 1830 Culworth
John's father Samuel (29 Jan 1752 Died 8 Feb 1822) Mother Ann Makepeace (1766 Thorp Mandavile died 1854 Culworth).
Samuel's father George Douglas born 1730 Culworth died 1801 Culworth married Ann Pittom (1737 Whitlebury died 20 May 1788 Culworth).

It is possible that George was related to William Douglas 25/10/1590 Culworth father was William born 1565 Culworth also possible he is connected to Volly Douglas 1554, usher to Mary Queen of Scots (1542-1587). Mary exucution took place At Fotheringhay Castle.

**** If Sir Walter Scott had been so fortunate as to have seen some of the letters in these volumes, which have been subsequently brought to light, he would have been able to improve the story of his fine historical romance of "The Abbot" in noj slight degree, by a closer adherence to facts. George Douglas, who cuts ,so conspicuous a figure in that tale, was a gallant gentleman, about Mary's own age. He generously made the arrangement for her escape, but, on the failure of the first abortive attempt, fled, leaving a second more successful enterprize for her deliverance to be achieved' by his orphan cousin, William, a boy of sixteen, who was known in the castle by the name of the little Douglas. This youth remained faithfully attached to Mary's adverse fortunes till her death; he received a pension from her, and is occasionally mentioned with great tenderness in her letters as "her orphan." In her will she calls him "Volly Douglas;" the letter W was evidently treated by Mary after the foreign fashion.  ****
Comment by William Douglas on February 7, 2017 at 19:15

Please note that this discussion cross-references with this one:

Comment by William Douglas on February 7, 2017 at 19:01

Is this the Curious Fox entry referred to below?
Searching for relatives of Daniel Douglas- (abt 1786) and Elizabeth (abt 1788)their children were Daniel Douglas (abt 1820) John Douglas (abt 1829) and Susanna Douglas (1825)they lived in Byfield, Northamptonshire.

Comment by Karen Collins on February 6, 2017 at 0:23

hi cara,my maiden name is douglas and my grandfather William was born in byfield,he was born illegitamely to sarah douglas who was born in 1857,my grandfather was brought up by sarahs father John (therefore kept the surname of douglas) could this be the john you are looking,if so if he was born 1829 he would havebeen around 28 at the time of sarahs birth.Could this be a link?Have other information but pretty limited.Feeling excited if there is the link we are looking for,as when we tried to go back further (back in 2006) we had limited information

Comment by Cara Douglas on April 3, 2015 at 13:50

This was in the Northampton Mercury 9 July 1825. Daniel was a farmer.

Added by William 7 Feb 2017: Daniel appears to have some status in the community. He is recorded as owning land in the poll of 1831

Comment by Cara Douglas on April 3, 2015 at 13:27

Hi William

I have them living in Byfield in the 1841 census and John would only be around 15 years old in 1844. The curious fox message may have come from me years ago.

Cheers Cara

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