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Descendants of Deacon William Douglas, b1610

Researching all the living descendants of Deacon William Douglas, and attempting to confirm his ancestory.

Website: http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/famgen/getperson.php?personID=I331309&tree=tree1
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Deacon William Douglas

There are conflicting reports as to the origins of William Douglas, and some of the theories have already been challenged, if not disproved, by the dna project.

There are suggestions as to travel on the Mayflower (second voyage), though that too seems unlikely.

Whatever his origins, he founded a dynasty.

All contributions to this study are very welcome

Discussion Forum

Douglas and the Mayflower

Started by Beverley Poling. Last reply by William Douglas Oct 23, 2012. 4 Replies

Letter from Ed Douglas

Started by William Douglas Mar 3, 2012. 0 Replies

Theory: William was the son of Robert, b1588

Started by William Douglas. Last reply by William Douglas Jul 29, 2009. 2 Replies

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Comment by Betsey Heath Howes on February 21, 2012 at 19:58

I've been trying to find a verifiable source for the dob for William Douglas which is usually given as "1610" (based on the Douglas Genealogy by Charles Henry James Douglas pub 1879) or more specifically Aug 9 1610.  There are some other dates online, but the August 9th date is by far the most used.  Where did it come from?   The earliest place I have so far found it is in a query by Douglas Merritt published in "Notes and Queries", 1913, Vol 127, p 368.  This can be found in a snippet view on Google Books.   The journal, which seems to collect queries from other publications and publish them a few times a year, is put out by Oxford Press with William White, editor.  I would like to see the whole query hoping that Mr Merritt or the editor gave a source.  Can anyone find it?   If you have a verifiable source for William's birth as Aug 9 1610, we'd all like to hear about it.

Betsey

Comment by Bruce Douglass on January 9, 2012 at 4:22

Betsey, Regarding the Robinsons, I have the line from William and Margaret Beach but I don't know if Thomas is the father. My line from William is followed by 4 generations of Increase Robinson. It does seem that there are a lot of coincidences.

Comment by Betsey Heath Howes on January 9, 2012 at 3:18

Bruce

We have worked on the Tuttle's a bit.  Simon died in Ringstead, Northants June 15 1630 but his wife and some children came to America and his son John settled in Ipswich, Bay colony in 1635.  Apparently John went to Carrickfergus by 1654 to purchase land for colonists who had  tired of the New World and d there in 1656.  Ipswich is, of course, one of William Douglas' homes when he came from England in 1640.  It is tempting to think one reason William settled in Ipswich was because his wife's family friend was there.  Some Tuttle children are registered in the earliest Ipswich birth records. I can't tell you anything about the Robinsons, but solid information about the Tuttle's is fairly easy to discover.

Betsey

Comment by Bruce Douglass on January 9, 2012 at 2:52

Ah Ha! I was just looking over Betsey's response noting the witnesses for the will. How about Simon Tuttle born abt 1560 in Ringstead, Northampton married to Isabell Wells, daughter of John Wells, born about 1565 also in Ringstead and died after 1635, He was the son of Richard Tottill born abt 1530 in Woodford, Northampton and died march 11, 1589 in  Woodford. He was married Elizabeth. Simon's son John was born abt 1596 and died 12/30/1656 in Carrickfergus Ireland and he was married to Joan Antrobus born abt 1588 in St. Albans, Herfordshire. This is part of my line that descends to the Kennards and Varneys of Windham Maine. Now I don't have a Thomas Robinson but I do have a William Robinson born 1/9/1615 in England and died 7/6/1668 in Dorcester MA married to Margaret Beach born abt 1618 in Kent and died in Dorcester MA. William could be the son of Thomas, Williams' mother was Agnes Street born abt 1593.---everyone seems to be located near each other.  The Robinsons are on my mothers side who connect to the Parlin's and then the Bradbury's of Maine. Maybe some of this helps if the signators can be found.

Comment by Bruce Douglass on January 9, 2012 at 2:26

As the research begins (or continues), keep in mind that there are three of us (Me - Bruce descended from John 1695 Middleborough MA, William descended from Thomas 1734 of New Fairfield CT and Stephen descended from Major Samuel 1754 of New York) who are closely related to William 1610 of New London through his brother, uncle, great uncle or whatever. The DNA is close enough to be a brother who did not emigrate or likewise an uncle. An John of Middleborough MA came from somewhere near London. Hopefully these facts can aid anyone researching William and Anne.

Comment by William Douglas on January 8, 2012 at 10:38

A researcher has been commissioned to attmpt to identify William douglas's background and ancestry. Details here>>>

Comment by William W. Hough on August 16, 2010 at 23:21
William,

A rather complete listing of the descendants of William Douglas, 1610, is given in the 1879 genealogy by Charles Henry James Douglas. The complete book is available on-line in Google Books. The genealogy of this family, which the author dubs "The New London Family" begins on page 47. Here is a link

http://books.google.com/books?id=GidKAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcov...

There is also an appendix that has a transcription of the deposition by Anne Douglas relative to her inheritance of her father and brother's estate in Northamptonshire. By the way, the deposition was given in 1670 and she says she is 66 years old, which would put her birth in abt 1604 rather than the 1610 often cited.

I, as you know, am a new subscriber to the Douglas Archives, and am just learning my way around. I left a long comment on the "community" section about some other ideas on the origin of the new world immigrant, William Douglas.
Comment by William Douglas on October 28, 2009 at 21:01
I have just found this entry in The genealogy.com forum:

For those of you who are descendants of this couple I recommend you look at the October 1999 issue of The American Genealogist (TAG) for an article by Leslie Mahler about Anne's ancestry in England (mentioned July 15 1999 in this forum). Unfortunately Mr Mahler does not solve the question of where (or when) William Douglas was born but he gives a credible list of the children and where they were born. This is a must read article for any of William and Anne's descendants. It's well written and sourced and should be quite available.
On the subject of Anne's name, her father's will, dated April 6 1612 at Ringstead next Thrapston, gives three different spellings for their surname, Motley, Motly, and Matlat. Anne(or possibly a) is called Matlat. Witnesses were Anthony Goode, Simon Tootull(Tuthill) and Thomas Robinson.
Betsey Howes
Comment by William Douglas on July 28, 2009 at 21:40
It has just been pointed out to me that I only show one child from Deacon William Douglas, b1673, and Sarah Proctor.

Can anyone help?
Comment by Edward Fenner Douglass III on June 24, 2009 at 2:57
It is widely assumed that Deacon William Douglas was born in Scotland. However, I've never seen any evidence to support this assumption. Has anyone?

There is a project underway to transcribe the church records of the villages of Easton Maudit, Ringstead, and ____________ in Northamptonshire, England. Ringstead is the home of Ann Motley (often spelled Matlat, and other variations) who was William's wife. The preliminary information lists quite a few Douglases in these towns. It is possible that William was born and grew up in this area but, again, I have not seen proof of it in the transcribed records to date.

Robert Green and William have been contemplating two theories about the ancestry of William. I will share the lines of descent if anyone is interested.
 

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