Lt Col Lord Spencer Douglas-Hamilton, son of James the 5th Duke of Hamilton and Anne Spencer of Rendlesham

[Don]

Looking for any information about Lord Spencer Hamilton.

According to information sources such as Burkes Peerage, Spencer Hamilton is said to have died unmarried.

Genealogy sites such as WikiTree don't like to except Burkes Peerage, thepeerage.com, and similar resources as providing dependable source material for evidence.

I have read some information about him being a sports lover person, horse racing I believe, dying in France and a story about him being asked to supply men to help contain a riot, he was a Lt Col in the Tower's Guards.

According to my family's history he did marry, to a Charlotte Spencer, and had two children.

One offspring was a son, named after him, also called Spencer Hamilton, who died young, and the other was named Anne Elizabeth Hamilton.

Anne married a Philip Wynter, whose granddaughter, Fanny Maria Wynter was born in Australia and is my great grandmother.

I would very much like to be able to confirm his place in the family tree and would also like to place his alleged wife, Charlotte Spencer, in her family tree.

Charlotte could relate to the Spencer Family of Rendlesham family or Sir John Spencer family, but I haven't found any evidence to support her position.

Both WikiTree and the Familysearch.org tree have them both in, so next to find BDM records to provide evidence.

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[William Douglas]

This tree shows similar information:
https://gw.geneanet.org/belfast8?lang=en&p=charlotte&n=spencer

I suspect some circular referencing is at work here.

The Spencer Family of Rendlesham link looks tenuous.  The line died out with Edward who died in 1728 leaving two daughters, one of whom, Anne, married the 8th Duke of Hamilton, who Lt Col Lord Spencer's father.

I now find that Sir William Barker, 5th Baronet married as his second wife Anne Spencer, widow of Edward Spencer, of Rendlesham, Suffolk, at St Marylebone Church, London, on 9 February 1731. A few months later, he died on 23 July 1731 at his house in East Street, near Red Lion Square. He was succeeded in the baronetcy by his son Sir John Barker, 6th Baronet, his only child by his first wife. He also left £500 in his will to provide for the upbringing and apprenticeship of Charles King, offspring of Mary King, who may have been his illegitimate son.

But that has not helped in the search for Charlotte.

[Don]

I've found 'source' records to support the birth of the two children, Spencer Hamilton who died young, and his sister Elizabeth, my ancestor.

The records refer to their actual father's name, but the mother is referred to as just Charlotte.

Can't find any other records such as a marriage record, yet.

It seems that permission had to be obtained from the sovereign for the royal subjects to get married.

If you were a member of the King's bedchamber staff, as Lord Sencer Hamilton was, would you need to obtain permission to marry?

Maybe he didn't get married which is why all the various books on peerage, like Burkes and Cokayne say he didn't marry?

[William Douglas]

...permission had to be obtained from the sovereign ...

My father was baptised in a royal chapel (Why? Unknown!), for which permission from the King was obtained.  So, maybe, they weren't 'royal subjects' but using a royal venue?

But if your premise is correct, perhaps royal approval was not granted?

W

[Don]

Been reading so much about this recently (and quickly) and vaguely remember that a King James (I think it was) getting upset with one of his close subjects when they went and got married without getting the King's approval to do so. 

[Don]

Yes. Who Charlotte Spencer is is a real dilemma for me.https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Spencer-10890
Some have Charlotte as a third daughter of Edward Spencer. That would make Lord Spencer Hamilton married to his Aunt and Charlotte having a miraculous inception 16 years after the death of the father.
Maybe she was a cousin to more famous Spencers or just a Spencer or even Spencer is not her maiden name.
However, to marry a Lord Spencer Hamilton she must have had some social position of substance.

Need to find some marriage records to nail it down.