The origins of the surname Drysdale

[Ronald Drysdale]

In a previous post I gave some background information on the Barony and lands of Dryfesdale:

https://douglashistory.ning.com/group/drysdale-a-douglas-sept?comme...

In another publication I recently came across a further reference to the Barony of Dryfesdale:

Ref: An inquiry concerning the Boss family and the name Boss
https://archive.org/details/inquiryconcernin01boss/page/184/mode/2up

This reference also highlights the Coat of Arms of 'Lord Boyis of Dryvisdaill of Auld' and the family's link to the Bruces of Annandale:

".....In these early times to which I have referred the Bruce family were Lords of Annandale’ and the Bois family were among their feudal vassals; the Bois arms are the same as the Bruce, with a difference in color to distinguish them, and are What are called feudal arms....."

The image below shows the arms of a number of early families with links to the Lords of Annandale:

Best regards

[William Douglas]

I just popped Saffron Walden Drysdales into the search engine...

Here's one:
https://www.iwm.org.uk/memorials/name/1684616
and another:
DRYSDALE, INNES & CO. LIMITED and also  Drysdale Street Management Co 

[Ronald Drysdale]

Hi William.

It seems like the Drysdales in Saffron Walden either died out in 1600s or moved on as there don't seem to be any more in that area until the end 1800s/early 1900s.

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[Ronald Drysdale]

Saffron Walden - Annandale - De Bruce - De Bohun  -  De Bois

The early Saxon manor of Walden became medieval Chipping Walden and then finally Saffron Walden.

In 1226 the manor of Walden was passed to the De Bohuns family, Earls of Essex and Hereford.

Humphrey (VII) de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford (c. 1276-1322), was about twenty-three years old at the time of his father’s death. On 16 February, 1298 the king took his homage and he inherited his father’s lands in the counties of Essex (Saffron Walden, Quendon, Debden, Shenfield,......etc)

Ref Wikipedia

........Robert Bruce is closely connected to the Bohuns...Humphrey de Bohun received many of Robert Bruce's forfeited properties. It is unknown whether Humphrey was a long-time friend or enemy of Robert Bruce, but they were nearly the same age and the lands of the two families in Essex and Middlesex lay very close to each other. After Bruce's defeats, Humphrey took Lochmaben, and Edward I awarded him Annandale and the castle.

....In April 1306 he was granted the lordship of Annandale in Scotland, forfeited from Robert de Bruce, and in July 1307 he received another of Bruce’s forfeitures, the Essex manors of Writtle, Hatfield, Baddow and Broomshaw.
POMS reference https://www.poms.ac.uk/record/source/7718/

Also it seems that the De Bohuns and De Boys [Bois] families were acquainted

Ref Ethesis - The de Bohun Dynasty: Power, Identity and Piety 1066-1399
https://pure.royalholloway.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/27830947/201...

A John De Boys was a steward in the De Bohun household in 1399

Some further Poms Refs for Humphrey del Bois (acting as a witness)
https://poms.ac.uk/record/factoid/79413/
https://poms.ac.uk/record/factoid/80487/

Also Hugh of Dryfesdale as a witness
https://poms.ac.uk/record/factoid/65654/

Click on witnesses tab to see entries

Best regards

[Russell Lynn Drysdale]

Ronald , In regards to Hugh of Dryfesdale as wittness to the Quitrents of the lands of Todrig, https://douglashistory.ning.com/group/drysdale-archives/page/the-wh... 

Todrig shows up with various  spellings  Totheryg, Thotheryg, Todrig ect. According to Ian Douglas there were 2 areas called Todrig, the one in refference is just  west of Ashkirk, south of Selkirk. 

[Ronald Drysdale]

Hi Russell

Some nice photos, I know the area - it's about 60 miles from where I was born.

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[Russell Lynn Drysdale]

Here is an old one , relevant to Walter de Bosco , Robert Bruce , Hugh son of Ingebald...

Charter by Robert Bruce to Ivo and his heirs, of a place between the fishings of Blawad and the water of Esk, for fishing and spreading his nets. Circa a.d.1190. 

  Robertus de Brtjis, omnibus hominibus suis et amicis, salutem. Soiatis me dedisse et concessisse et hae carta mea confinnasse Iuoni et heredi'ous suis locum qui est inter piscariam de Blawad et aquam de Hesch; tenendum de me et heredibus meis ad piscarias suas faciendas et retia tendenda, libere et quiete ; reddendo miehi annuatim unam libram piperis, uel sex denarios ; hiis testibus, Petro de Humez, Hugone de Corri, Hugone filio Ingebaldi, Eoberto de Hodelmia, Waltero de Bosco, Humfrido del Gardine, Ricardo Flammanc, Henrico filio Gerardi.   

Google translation 

Robert de Bruce Greetings to all his people and friends. You have promised that I have given and granted, and that these charters of mine have confined to John and his heirs the place which is between the fishery of Blawad and the water of Hesch; to be held of me and my heirs to make their fisheries and to draw their nets, freely and quietly; paying to my wife one pound of pepper annually, or six denarii; these witnesses, Peter de Humez, Hugh de Corri, Hugh the son of Ingebald, Eobert de Hodelmia, Walter de Bosco, Humfrid del Gardine, Richard the Flamanc, Henry the son of Gerard.

original source cited:  Original charter in Drumlanrig Charter-chest. 

source : PDF , CHARTERS OF THE JOHNSTONES OF JOHNSTONE,

EARLS AND MARQUISES OF ANNANDALE.

https://deriv.nls.uk/dcn23/9661/96618511.23.pdf