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Comment by Robert Davic on August 4, 2022 at 16:33

I am looking for help how best to determine if modern-day males with the surname Kidston are closely related to the Clan Douglas linage using Y-DNA markers.     

My wife, Elizabeth, is a Kidston and her father can trace his Scottish family surname back in time to a family of Kidston that originated in the parish of Logie in the early 1500s. The original Kidston family graves are located at the old Logie Kirk graveyard, rather amazing to view the grave of an 11th great grandfather.  

There is a suggestion by a Kidston family historian that this ancient Kidston family has origin from a young Douglas male who lived near Logie in early 1500s. The suggestion being that he was starting a family and took the long inactive surname Kidston (lost to birth and death records in Scotland for ~260 years) to hide their Douglas identify, after the 8th Earl of Douglas was killed at Stirling Castle in 1451, which led to some Douglas family members being arrested during the 1451 to 1500 time period.  

If this story has any truth to it, modern day Kidston males should be genetically very similar to Douglas males using Y-DNA test methods, more so than with males of other Scottish surnames.  

My question is, what would be the best Y-DNA genetic test to use to determine a possible close genetic link between modern-day males of the Kidston and Douglas families?  Would it be required that the newer Big Y-DNA test be used, or would the methods using 111 Y-STR loci be sufficient?  We are aware of a few Kidston males that could be tested and want to direct them toward the appropriate Y-DNA test to use.  

Any advice greatly appreciated.  

   

Comment by William Douglas on May 9, 2020 at 9:42

I have uploaded files relevant to the BigY test, and to William Douglas, b1610 in the Douglas DNA section of the Archives. See here>>> and look for items 41 and 42.

Comment by William Douglas on March 3, 2020 at 20:29

An interesting article by Ky White, one of the leading ancestral chart makers, outlines Viking origins in Britain. Many of us seem to have Viking DNA. Maybe this explains it?

Look for the link here: http://douglashistory.co.uk/douglasdna/douglas/douglas.htm

Comment by William Douglas on December 17, 2019 at 21:26

The Douglas and variants DNA project and The Robert William Glode Douglas DNA project have for many years been active in Yahoo Groups.
However, Yahoo has now closed its file hosting service, and so a rescue operation was mounted to download all the files, and save them.
A new file hosting service is now available within the Douglas Archives for these two groups. Much work has still to be done as the downloaded files came without the explanatory links and, in many cases, the files are un-named.
All Yahoo users are requested to review their files and let me know of any details that will make them useful. If anyone can recognise any of the photographs and put names to them, please get in touch.
Not all sections are complete so updating will continue into the New Year.

www.douglashistory.co.uk/douglasdna 

Comment by William Douglas on September 2, 2019 at 20:49

Scotland’s genetic landscape echoes Dark Age populations - first comprehensive genetic map

https://www.historyscotland.com/articles/scottish-history/scotlands...

Comment by William Douglas on August 26, 2019 at 11:38

Did you know...

That if you post your haplogoup in the search box, you will find others who match yours?

And you can get networking!

William

Comment by Gilbert Franklin Douglas III on July 8, 2019 at 22:59

FYI on 31 Dec 2018, I did a cheek swab of my father's first cousin, Dan E. Douglas (he died a couple months later!!!)

His is also RM198, just like mine...

Gilbert Douglas III

Comment by Bob Douglas on July 7, 2019 at 19:03

My Y DNA results are in.

i am haplogoup R-M269

I have a small number of Douglas matches ,  one seem to offer immediate breakthrough, but work to be done here 

Comment by Bob Douglas on April 11, 2019 at 10:43

I have as my furthest back James Douglas(s) b abt 1733-5,  father was an unknown John Douglas. Family reported that we are Scottish Ancestry, but no firm information 

Comment by Bob Douglas on April 6, 2019 at 17:38

Hi I recently did an Autosomal DNA test with Ancestry. I have one very small lead. Need to do a Y DNA test

Bob Douglas

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