I tried to send a comment earlier but can't see it so I may be repeating myself, sorry.
My ancestor thread is William Douglas 1731-1805 New London Conn, Daniel Douglas 1770-1793, Daniel William Douglas 1789-1868 New London Conn., Mary Elizabeth Douglas 1836-1920, to my grandmother Emily Douglas Huntington Harwood 1881-1979 New Britain Conn.

The documents I have are original, not copies. My grandmother had a great deal of old paper from the Douglas New London Conn. family.
Among the documents I have are;
1660 the original deed for land given to to William Doulgas by the township of New London for services rendered
1702 Deed of gift for a tract of New London land from William Douglas Sr to his son Deacon William Douglas (wax seal intact)

Also;
1733 deed of mortgage for 120 acres bought by Capt. Richard Douglas for 280 lbs. Resold in 1745 to Nathan Stanly and George Wyllys, bottom of same paper. (original intact wax seal)
I have original deeds and wills for the New London, Conn. Doulgas family from 1660 to 1804
I will investigate if copying these documents will be harmful. If not I will be glad to scan and send copies.

Necesito confirmar los padres de James Douglas, no creo que sea dificil, ya que tengo los datos y registro de su esposa : Katherin mbién Walker, que son mis quintos abuelos. Y también la inscripción de su bautismo n° 31582 HOJA 106664 donde sus padres Jhon Walker y Christian Mcaulay registran el b. de Katherin Walker in Roseneath , año 1755 que se casó con James Douglas Un cariño y gracias, estamos en contacto

Somos de Dumbarton

Thank you William for your kind comment regarding my photography portfolio.
I have practiced my profession for almost forty years now. Sorry to hear of your
plumbing problems and best wishes with you house guests. Thanks for looking
for evidence of my ancestors. Your efforts are much appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you again in the near future. ClintonSmith.com

Hello again, Long time writing.. i was wondering if you know why there is Douglass spelled with two S's and the other spelling is with one S. Can you answer this question for me? Cynthia

Oh interesting.....I was told because the Douglas with one s was the light hair and light eyes Clan's and the two ss are from James Douglass or it was Sir william Douglass got the two ss because he or Father mixed with The spainards or siliians and caused them to be called the Black Douglass's. They had Black hair and Olive skin form the mix. They were fierce in the Kingdom of Scotland.Their war cry was "A Douglass A Douglass!!! They were feared within the other clans. The actually read that in studying my ancestry. I was told this by my Father also....and Grand Father

Yes I believe that it is........NIce to hear from you! Thank you!

Thank you for your kind welcome, William. Your help to date has been very much appreciated.

Thank you for the nice welcome message! Sorry it's taken me so long to respond, I've been researching other branches of my family. I did see the article you recently posted concerning the Perthshire Douglases. If you ever run across info on the Douglases of Logerait, I would love to hear about it. Thank you for all of the hours you put in researching the Douglases!

Hi, yep that was him, music recordings, electronic music production,electronic organs ,books, building organs...etc.....he was/is my dad. born 1899 died 1999.

William,

Thank you for replying.

I have no idea how far the Douglas's go back or what line. I only have the oldest as William Douglas, Birth1540 Castle, Dumfries-shire, , Scotland Death27 Sep 1606 Castle, Dumfries-shire, , Scotland. All of this is based on information from my mother and online.

Take care,

Thank you William for the imformation, every little helps I still have not got any further so far. I have joined family Link but still can`t get any imformation on my GGGrandfather who Married Margaret Douglas. Still cannot find his sons birth certificate. GGGrandfather was presumed to be a Doctor so maybe young Henry was not registered in those yrs , very big ???? mark. Have plenty on young Henry & his wife. This is the first time i have known Henry Grattan to have had a Daughter Margaret so will try to follow through. Thanks once again, Francene

While I cannot speak for the CDSNA Board, I will say that Clan Douglas is in a building stage in the American Midwest. I am currently CDSNA Regent for Kansas& Missouri and I represent the clan at festivals/events in the two states. In this, my first year as Regent, 17 persons/families have become members of or renewed their membership to Clan Douglas in my two states of responsibility. Being a Regent has afforded me the opportunity of meeting several members of our extended Douglas family.

In July at the 2010 AGM, the CDSNA Board commissioned a small committee to document sept names, as listed in our 2009 by-laws, and report the findings to the board at a later AGM. I am pleased to see there is already a discussion of Douglas septs taking place here and I heartily encourage anyone and everyone to contribute to this work in progress. So much misinformation is found on the internet regarding Douglas septs and this only confuses those who are seeking answers. By providing historical evidence for each sept, we validate its inclusion as a sept and we also have something at which to point when people ask "Why is _______ a Douglas sept?"

CDSNA still sends out a quarterly newsletter, the dubh ghlase. The most recent issue (Sep 2010) included, in addition to games/festival reports and photos, an article from Dr. Deborah Foulkes about Lintalee, Roxburghshire, the 14th century stronghold of the Good Sir James, and A Modern Douglas Knight's Story written by Douglas Archive member Dr. David Arthur Douglas describing his recent honor of being invested as a Knight of St. Joachim. The newsletter will be moving to a full-color digital format in the near future. A b&w print copy will still be available to those CDSNA members desiring/needing it, but the switch to a digital copy will significantly lower CDSNA's overall costs since the our largest expenses come from printing and mailing.

And I would be honored to share my events here.

Thank you for the welcome! Why does it not surprise me that I descend from a 'mysterious' Douglas? :laughs: Ah, the joys of genealogy!
William Douglas and Ann "Mattle" had, among their children, two daughters - Ann and Elizabeth, and I descend from both, on my father's side.
-Kess

hi william, I dont have a major snodgrass married to a rachael. do you have a bit more on them. kelly

Thanks for the welcome. I didn't see a direct link either, but your site has given me a wealth of information about my family. I found 13 generations back to the late 1500’s when in the past I only knew the family history from the 1830’s on (and I can vogue to the accuracy of that information)

Thanks Again

Matt

Lady Janet Douglas 1740 married Sir Kenneth Mackenzie. Their children were 2-Janet Mackenzie Who married Rev John Snodgrass (my family line), whos son was 'Lt-Col Keneth Snodgrass who was father to Peter Snodgrass.

Lady Janet & Sir Kenneth's 1st child was Lt-Col Kenneth Mackenzie who on the "second creation" of the Baronetcy of Douglas of Glenbervie changed his name to Douglas 2 years before his death on accepting that title. His descendants go under the name of Mackenzie-Douglas.

It was his daughter Rachel Mackenzie-Douglas who married her 1st cousin Major john Snodgrass, son of Lt-Col Kenneth, brother to Peter Snodgrass.

they actually married on 23 Feb 1843, st Luke's church in Chelsea. he died 27 Jan 1856, no birth for him. i have her death as 15 April 1877, no birth date as yet. most of their children were born in Tasmania & Victoria Australia.

You are spot-on here with the Douglas/Heron connection!
John Douglas m. Martha Heron 18.06.1742 in Penninghame, Martha being the dau. of James Heron and Marion Shaw. Two other Douglases married her siblings i.e. Elizabeth Douglas, dau. of William and Grissel M'Keand, m. Nathaniel Heron 15.07.1735, and Nathaniel Douglas m. Margaret Heron 13.06.1727.
After much deliberation and searching for Samuel's siblings, mentioned in his will, I found his parents to be Nathaniel Douglas and Margaret Heron who lived at 'Craignine', a small farm east of Newton Stewart (some 25 miles from me) and in the parish of Kirkmabreck, KKD.
Samuel was interred in a crypt he had arranged to have erected to the memory of his parents (unnamed!) in Penninghame Old Kirkyard but sadly his remains, which were in a lead coffin shipped from Charlestown, have now disappeared. The inscription on the crypt reads: "Erected by Samuel Douglas (Late of Jamaica) in memory of his father and mother and here also are interred the remains of the above Samuel Douglas who founded and endowed the Douglas Academy now called the Douglas High School." The remains of Nathaniel Douglas and Margaret Heron together with their dau. Mary, are interred in Clachan of Penninghame Kirkyard. The crypt, which I managed to access illegally, is unfortunately in a state of near collapse and my enquiries leave me to understand no repairs are envisaged.
Regards,
Bob.

Precisely!

Hello William!

I haven't been able to find the brilliant reference to my grandfather Wilbert Lawson Douglas that you found on Google...do you by any chance still have the link? In July 2010 you provided this snippet from Google: ...Born Grantham, Clarendon, April 23, 1873, son late John Bolt Douglas, Educator, and Frances Matilda, daughter James Wright his wife...

Also, do you have any genealogy for Edward Douglas in Scotland going back 3 or 4 generations?
I've spent two decades studying Thomas Dale, and three decades now studying the first Eastern Shore of Virginia settlers who surrounded Dales Gift.

Thomas Dale was deputy Governor of Virginia under Thomas Gates, and then the 3rd Governor of Virginia from 1614 to 1616 when he brought Pocahontas to England. He also had a brother whose name might be Richard. Anything on his siblings or parents would be greatly appreciated.
There are some who have written in the past that Thomas Dale provided bodyguard services in Scotland to your Prince Henry, son of James I of England, but I never have been able to prove this. It was Prince Henry who asked Dale to go to Virginia, and on the very same day he became Prince of Wales.

Thanks. Dale started as an ordinary soldier yet in three years was a captain in the Low Countries which was a remarkable promotion. If we can confirm his sister was the Isabel who mature Edward Douglas it would be wonderful. There seems to be a connection between Dale and Littleton and the daughter of Douglas married a Littleton. Thanks again and I like your site. 

I actually changed it to the badge used on the Wikipedia entry.  Thank you for that.

 

Shawn

Willian, As you know my name is Doyle A. Douglas. Over many years my family have been looking for are history.  This past year I joined ancestry. com and was able to find my family line all the way back to Adam. One of the things I found was that Deacon William Douglas was my  ancester.  Also that he at the time that he came to the new world was Earl of Angus.  Our family has been a vary big part of the history of the world since the begaining of time.  This in it self has changed my way of thinking. We as Douglas have alot to live up too, we have some vary big shoe's to fill.   I would also like to take part in the DNA testing if it will help my Douglas family in anyway.  Truly  Doyle Douglas

Earliest for sure is William Jasper Douglas b abt March 1880 in Ohio. His Father was suppose to be Lafayette maybe born in Crab Orchard Kentucky. William Douglas was married to Mary Gates b 9 Jan 1870 d 5 Dec 1907

 

David Douglas

many thanks for your reply.  I do not know anything much about my Douglas history except that my gr gr grandfather was named Alexander Reed Douglas.  I beleive his father may have been Frank Douglas and mother Annie Elizabeth Reed. Alexander was a ship builder in Auckland New Zealand and owned two ships that I am aware of, those being 'Lagoon' and 'Lake Superior'. He was born in Carlisle, Cumberland and had a sister who also travelled and lived in NZ who was married to a David Gouk - also a ship builder.

 

Jennifer Thomas

The earliest Douglas on my tree is Henry Douglas (abt 1846), married to Joicey Hawsey (1846), both of Alabama (around Conecuh County).  Both appear as next-door neighbors as toddlers on the 1850 census.  While on ancestry.com, I found another member's tree which traces my Douglas family back to William I  (1145) however there weren't any supporting documents to prove it.  That is how I found this wonderful website.  I pray I can find lots of help here.

I completely understand.  What I should have clarified, was that the tree from which I got the Scottish information was not my own tree, but another member's tree.  The leads I need are for the 1800's and partially the 1700's, I believe could be verified through census and/or court records, if I knew the names.  This is a portion of the other member's tree in which some names were listed as Unknown. If there is a connection to the Scottish Douglas line, it would pick up from my "missing" generations to Thomas Douglas (1740-1830) of Virginia.  I'm wondering if a different approach could be to obtain the lineage from Thomas Douglas forward through his descendants and see if they lead to my known Douglas family (since I've hit a brick wall searching from my known family backward).  At least this way, I would either find the leads I need for my "missing" generations or know that my hunch about the Scottish connection is incorrect.  I hope I cleared things up somewhat.  This can get so confusing.  And I would like to thank you for helping and corresponding with me.

William

 

Thank you so much for the information on my family. The Theodore Roosevelt Douglas you found is not my grandfather since I know he passed away in the 1930's. I think you may have something on John Douglas being one of the early radio evangelists. I know that he definitely was on the radio and that he did sponsor missionaries.  Will start to see if I can find more info about him from the Texas site you suggested. Again thank you for your help.

 

Sincerely

 

Steven J. Douglas

Thank you for your response sir, as i am new to this i am willing to help where i can and as far as where i can trace back to the last name that i have found in my tree is

William Douglas, son of Archibald Douglas and Margaret de Crawford. I have traced it down through the records and i have hit a brick wall when i came to the child of John Douglas and Lydia Southworth, in my records i show a child named Warren but i can find no trace of him.  I would love to post all of the information that i have but i am unsure of how to go about doing that. any pointers would help because i would love to share this info.

Yes we are back to the John Douglas that Married Eunice Ratliff Rattleleaf. Very funny i know that my line ties to him and i have just posted a blog that gives the names and dates of everyone that i know. I hope that it helps and that it will answer others questions as well as my own about John and Eunice and the rest of the line.

not to far but jennifer douglass is my cousin tha t is how i got to ur name

William:

 

I have a slide show presintation from the Douglas Heritage Museum, a power point presintation,  it runs for about three minutes. Are you interested?

 

Bill Douglas

It is a *.pps slide show file and I am having trouble sending it, any suggestions?

What is your e-mail address?  I think i can send this way

Hello William.  As far as I can verify, James Douglas b. circa 1880 in Texas Co., MO is my earliest ancestor.  He is my great grandfather.  I have narrowed my gg grandfather to two likely candidates...

 

1) Thomas Young Douglas b. Campbell Co., TN

2) William Green Douglas b. Casey Co., KY

 

Either one of these two.  If my gg grandfather is #1, then our mutual friend Paul J Douglas can help me fill in the blanks, because he comes from that same line....

 

If my gg grandfather is #2, then I still have a lot of work ahead of me at this point.

 

I have a copy of my great grandfather's death certificate.  As an informant, my grand aunt (his daughter) listed his father as *unknown.*  I ask my aunts who James' father was and I have conflicting answers... so here I am.

 

I hope this answered your question.  And I haven't had a chance to check if James is here in the archives or not.  I'm about to find out.

 

Thanks.

Jack

William, it coud be that one, but I'm thinking that the Thomas Young Douglas I have in mind was born around 20 years later.  Let me verify this with Paul and I'll get back with you on this.  Thanks for all you do.

George Preston Douglas born November 20,1832 Campbell County,TN died November 10,1902 Ardmore,OK married Lucretia Wilhite born February 12,1836 Campbell County,TN died November 8,1878 Texas County,MO...George Preston and Lucretia had a son named Thomas Young Douglas born March 1,1854 TN. 

 

This is the Thomas Young Douglas that I'm looking at as a possible candidate for my gg grandfather.  Thanks to Paul Douglas for helping me find this info.  I hope this information helps you discover who I am.

 

If Thomas Young Douglas is my gg grandfather: 

Then James Douglas is his son.

Louis Douglas will be James's son.

Dorothy Jacquelin Douglas Ward was Louis's daughter, the baby.

Jackie Lee Douglas is Dorothy's first born son, which just so happens to be me.

 

If you need dates and such, I'll be happy to provide them.  I'll come back to this site tomorrow to fill in those other blanks.  Again, thanks William for all you do.

 

Jack 

I actually have a  copy of Janet Douglas's birth certificate which will show her birth near Linton Scotland and I have a family tree, I think that Euphmia and John brought eight kids to Canada. Will find it and copy it Cathy Williamson

Thank you for the kind welcome!  Supposedly--although I am coming to learn that this could be in question--I am a descendent of Col. John Douglas, possible son of Sir Robert Douglas of Blackerstone. My great great grandmother, Virginia Walker Douglass, was the older sister of Anne McEldin Douglass, who is said to have commissioned the Newman book on the Douglases of Maryland and Virginia. Any leads or info you have on that would be appreciated!   

Mr. Douglas, thanks for your comment. I must confess that I am not a Douglas myself. I signed up here because I am doing some historical research into my own clan and wondering if I could find more information here on my own clan to compare notes. Sometimes various clans have different takes on what happened. My grandfather was a McClellan and although there is no proof that we actually descended from the Kirkcudbright clan these mysterious stories seem to be following us around. The McClellan and Douglas clans seem to have been at odds since the events of about 1450 involving the Black Douglas brothers whose rebellion against James II King of Scots failed miserably. What is not clear to me is what relationship the McClellans had if any with the Red Douglas clan. From America it is not so clear that they were even acquainted or whether they all fought together at Flodden Field against the English. Why was the Earl of Douglas  so angry with Sir John Herries and McClellan tutor of Bombie that he would see fit to haul them off and have their heads chopped off?

Sir Patrick McClellan was the tutor of Bombie. So whose estates was he managing? Was the Earl of Douglas still a minor? Why did King James II intervene so urgently on behalf of Sir John Herries and McClellan? If they were someone else's vassals why would he care how the Earl of Douglas managed his own vassals? Would that not be deemed interference by Douglas? How do the Red Douglas view the McClellans now in modern times? Thanks for your help.

That chart is very interesting. I am wondering where it came from. Also, on what basis did the Douglas consider the McClellans as their vassals? Did the Red Douglas assume the properties of the Black Douglas  after their failed rebellion or did that pass to other hands? Thanks for your help.

 

The info I have goes back to John Douglas born 1857 in Hawick and his Father,

Thomas Douglas but do not have birth date.

The ever-poplular William Douglas, 1640 to Massachussetts, via his dau. Sarah who m. John Keeney.

 

Oops, gotta go, it's almost Balvene time.

Tom

looking for Douglas family born in Kirkcaldy Fife