Descendants of Deacon William Douglas, b1610

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Comment by William W. Hough on March 6, 2019 at 20:48

William, the first line of the biography and your post should have said Wallace Barton Douglas.  I didn't have him but had his father and mother in my database.  I now have him.  He is indeed a descendant of Deacon William Douglas, born 1610, and his wife Ann Mattle.  His line back is Asahel M. (1814), Israel Jr. (1769), Israel (1742), John (1701), William (1666), Robert (1639, William (~1610).  I also descend from Israel Jr. in this line.  There were a lot of Douglass cousins who went to Leyden, New York around 1800.

Comment by William W. Hough on March 6, 2019 at 19:08

Further comment on Sherry Duty's post.

Sherry, your first post is accurate.  Elizabeth Douglass indeed had two husbands and two children by each that you correctly name.  The second husband was Henry Roland, not Howland, and I found 11 different spellings of this surname in my search, all beginning with "R".  I spent a couple of hours with the Carol Maginnis "de Wolf" book (2 volumes) in the library, and am extremely impressed with her work.  She lists a number of sources: vital records, land records, church records, orphan's court records, and probate records for New London, Lyme, and New London County, Connecticut. You could duplicate her work by examining records in courthouses in Connecticut or on microfilm at the LDS Family History Center in Salt Lake City.  I am not going to try.  A lot of the dates she gives are derived, meaning you can bracket for example a marriage between the last child of one mother to the date of an indenture by the step mother.  I might derive a broader window in some cases, but her derivations are all reasonable.

WorldCat lists the libraries that hold the Mcginnis book.  Search for the author "Carol Maginnis" and at least one of the results should give you a list with lots of public libraries.  Or you can email me at wwhough@gmail.com and I can give you more info on what I found in my search.

Comment by William Douglas on March 6, 2019 at 11:13

Does anyone have Wallace Barton Wallace (September 21, 1852 – December 9, 1930) in their family?  He was a lawyer, jurist, and politician.

His biography states that his ancestors were 'Sir William Douglas and wife, who was a Miss Ringstad'.

It seems to me that they are more likely Deacon William Douglas, born 1610, and his wife Ann Mattle, daughter of Thomas Mattle of Ringstead, England.  

Comment by Edward Fenner Douglass III on February 25, 2019 at 17:49

I have Elizabeth Douglas (b. 1677) in my database.  The entry is probably based on CHJ Douglas' tome on the Connecticut Douglases.  Only one marriage to Henry ROWLAND is shown as William Hough reports.  The date of marriage appears to be 25 Nov 1703, possibly in Lyme, CT.  She died Aft 14 Jul 1715.  I have no other notes about her and if there were any in CHJD, I would have copied and pasted them into my database.  No Find-a-Grave information.

I don't have a copy of Carol Maginnis book.

In our search through the Northamptonshire public records, I believe we were looking for Douglases pretty intently.  Whether we searched for alternative surname spellings, I am not certain.  Betsey Howes would be the best person to ask about this.  I will do so.

William Hough is correct:  our search failed to find any record of William Douglas, b. abt 1609 in the Northamptonshire public records.

FreeReg a few years back was turning up many Douglases in Northamptonshire and neighboring counties.  But not a "William Douglas."  Is the FreeReg work continuing?  Have they found more Douglases?  Were they searching on alternative spellings of "Douglas" besides Dugleys?  Betsey Howes was tracking the FreeReg work for us back 10 years ago.  I  will ask her if she has been continuing to follow this effort.

I will ask Julie Hornung if she is familiar with the Carol Maginnis book or if she can access it.

Comment by William W. Hough on February 25, 2019 at 3:35

Two comments on postings by Sherry Duty. 

The only husband of Elizabeth Douglas listed in the Douglas Genealogy by Charles Henry James Douglas (available on Google Books) is Henry Rowland (not Howland) on page 63.  However, another book on the DeWolfe family, "Dolphs and De Wolffs" by Carol Maginnis, in which I found a snippet that suggests that she did indeed marry a DeWolfe before Rowland, should be examined.  I can't see the whole entry, but a number of libraries have copies.  Email me at wwhough@gmail.com if you can't locate a copy,

The William Dugleys found in the baptismal records of Easton Maudit may very well be our William Douglas.  There was a substantial effort about 9 years ago to look for a marriage record between a William and Ann Motley in parishes in Northamptonshire.  See the letter from Ed Douglas on this site dated Mar 3, 2012.  To my knowledge, none has been found but more and more records are being transcribed.  Don't know if anyone has revived that study in the last few years.  Ed might also comment on Sherry's posting.

Comment by Sherry Duty on February 25, 2019 at 1:17

Hi, I am new. I have been looking for information about Elizabeth Douglas born 1677, granddaughter of Deacon William, by his son Robert and Mary Hempstead. The Elizabeth Douglas I am looking for married first Stephen DeWolfe 1679 - 1711, they had two children Gidion and Stephen, she married Henry Howland and indentures her children at the ages of 6 years and 4 years, she then had two more children with Henry Howland,  Elizabeth and Sarah.  I am looking for any records that would prove or disprove this story. In my search came across this record, could this be the baptism for Deacon William Douglas?

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Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data

Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Northamptonshire
Place Easton Maudit
Church name St Peter and St Paul
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 22 Jul 1609
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename William
Mother forename Agnes
Father surname DUGLEYS
Notes Latin entry translated into English
Transcribed by Anna Rufer
Credit Kay Collins
File line number 670

Comment by William Douglas on February 23, 2019 at 18:00

Comment by William Douglas on February 12, 2018 at 11:56

Douglas Hollow is located in Wyoming County, Pennsylvania. It was settled by members of the Douglas family. 

One of the local graveyards is known as the

Douglas Family Plot

Located on Richard S. Stark Farm by the pond, 1/2 mile up the dirt road.

Turn right off the Forkston to Lovelton road. Turn up road at the Dana Hulbirt Farm.

 

DOUGLAS, Clinton Albert, son of Isaac and Mary, d: 1843/53 5m

DOUGLAS, Lillie, dau. of A. and N., d: 18 Aug 1872 2y 1m 28d

DOUGLAS, Polly A. Kasson, wife of E. C., d: 10 July 1885 27y; Little Freddit, son, d: 21/27 (No Month or Year)

DOUGLAS, William, d: 18 Jan 1880 86y 6m

DOUGLAS, William Davis, son of William and Clarinda, d: 8 Aug 1847 6y 3m

DOUGLAS, William H., son of (No Name), d: 1840

KASSON, Polly A., See Polly A. Kasson Douglas

William, who married Clarinda, is a descendant of William Douglas, b1610.

Comment by Robin Spencer on December 29, 2017 at 23:10

Happy New Year!  I'm a Spencer but have Wm Douglas (1610) as an ancestor.  I just posted a tree diagram derived from the Douglas Y-DNA project.  You will know that DNA breaks the direct Scottish parentage for William, but you may be interested that a rough estimate of when we have a common ancestor with another Douglas line (that has DNA data) could go back about 30 generations -- far beyond the 10 generations of his American descendants.

Comment by William Douglas on August 6, 2017 at 12:37

William's daughter, Anne seems to have married three times. One of these was to a William Keeney (various spellings, and not always William).

Researching Douglases (also of various spellings) in Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England, I came across the theory that Anne married Sir Thomas Kinne Baronet of King's Lynn, County Norfolk.

'Sir' Thomas is said to have been knighted by the King in 1618, for "signal services rendered to the English government". He fled to Holland to escape from religious persecution. In 1625, he came to America, just five years after the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock. However, there is no such baronetcy.

It is also suggested by others that Anne married one of Thomas's children.

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