William Douglas's Page

Hi William, Daryl Douglass here. I just got your email re David Preece. How Bizarre! What the hell was he doing trolling the Douglas Archives? David and I were really good friends but lost touch many years ago. Please, can you give him my Email address. I would love to reconnect. 

Cheers

Daryl D

Hi William, Albert Augustine Douglas was my GGGF (direct line).

Thank you. I believe I may have found some clues in Roxburgh, Scotland.

Thank you, not the William Douglas who once owned land at the hawkesbury region either.   Although a very interesting article as the name Mary Grove's is the same (believe it or not).  To an ancestor from the other side of the unconnected family in the UK.... once again thank you 

Thank you! I have Bob's book on the descendants of Tom and Phoebe Douglas but I didn't know about his more recent manuscript. I'll follow up with Bob about that resource!

Paul,

You are welcome & good luck with your future research 

Best regards

Ron

Ron, that is great info and I vaguely remember coming across that years ago when I first pieced this possible line together (I descend from Archibald's son William Harvey Douglass...the man loved "Harvey" for sure!).  It's been long enough I think I need to dedicate come time to reassessing this information and you guys have been a great help!  If you come across anything else I would be in your debt!  But I think I'm going to reup my subscriptions on the relevant search sites and get back to work!  Thanks so much!  Paul

Hi Paul

I understand the nature of the problem you have - too many possibilities and not enough accurate information (without even considering a possible Irish aspect!).

I think the hard information that you have is:

- the 1837 Prison record as this specifies his name clearly as  Archibald Harvey Dougla (but I am suspicious about the age quoted - 22 years)

- the 1835 marriage record, again his full name Archibald Harvey Douglas is clearly stated

There are two online Parish records: 

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Prescot/stmary/baptisms_1839-1840.html

Baptism: 13 Jan 1839 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire
William Harvey Douglas - Son of Archibald Harvey Douglas & Mary
Abode: Prescot
Occupation: Dresser
Baptised By: Wm. Coombs
Register: Baptisms 1835 - 1842, Page 159, Entry 1267
Source: LDS Film 1657583

https://lan-opc.org.uk/Prescot/stmary/baptisms_1841-1842.html

Baptism: 24 Jan 1841 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire
John Douglas - Son of Archibald Harvey Douglas & Mary
Abode: Prescot
Occupation: Dresser
Baptised By: C. G. T. Driffield
Register: Baptisms 1835 - 1842, Page 234, Entry 1871
Source: LDS Film 1657583

Then there is the record for Henry Harvey Douglas - Christening 29 Mar 1846 Father Archibald Harvey Douglas St. Helens, Lancashire, England

and Henry Harvey Douglas's Marriage in 1868 with Archibald Harvey Douglas father - see images below:

It's obvious that Archibald likes to use his Harvey middle name.

So where does this middle name come from? Often middle names are carried down from a mother, Grandmother or other ancestor.

I briefly checked out this aspect (Douglas/Harvey) and again I come up with the Scottish connection:

 -  and it neatly ties in with the Dumfriesshire Douglases (Wilton in Roxburghshire is only 17 miles from Ewes in Dumfriesshire):

I personally don't look upon Census records as being accurate providers of genealogical data, if it confirms something that's fine - if the data deviates significantly then it is suspect. As far as I can recall none of the census records gave the 'Harvey' middle name. 

Best regards

Ron